I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)

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Once you have booted in to Workbench, would it be possible to install OS4 to hard disk? Even if you had to boot from the OS4 CD to then boot from the installed copy of OS4?

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@tiffers
A better solution (if it worked) would be to have two partitions: one HFS to contain the Moana files, and one for OS4 in whichever filesystem OS4 uses. Then using Leo24's method you could get OF to automatically boot Moana from the HFS partition and then Kickstart 4.0 will boot OS4 from the Amiga partition. Though I have no idea whether that would work. As you say the alternative would either be to have the Moana CD in the drive when you boot and then eject it (if you can) or to have a separate external drive for CD/DVD usage and use the internal drive as a boot device with the Moana CD inserted permanently.

I wonder whether you could also add a second hard disk for Moana? So use one for Moana for OF to boot from and one for OS4 to run from? If you used a CF card you could probably fit it inside the Mac Mini case.

All of that, of course, relies on the installer actually working and Moana being able to boot from the hard drive.

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@apex and gaula92
I think that's totally uncalled for. We all feel strongly about AmigaOS and the way Amiga Inc. are controlling it, but to wish somebody a "painful death" because of their business decisions is appalling. It's also against the posting guidelines, so I'd be careful what you say if you don't want to wind up banned.

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a-pex wrote:
Normally I would give you a full ack, but in case of Bill McEvil I will never change my mind!!!

I'm not asking you to. Your opinion is not my concern. I was merely pointing out that I think it is shameful, and probably against the posting guidelines, to make such a statement.

a-pex wrote:
Please explain the business decisions from AInc.? What are they doing the whole day, eating beans and producing hot air?

I'm not here to explain AInc's actions. No doubt your questions are rhetorical and intended to justify your earlier comment. But a company not producing the product that you want is no justification for wishing their CEO a painful death.

a-pex wrote:
Without AmigaInc and without Bill McEwen we would have:

- AOS4 on Sam404
- AOS4 on MacMini PPC
- AOS4 maybe on some other hardware

and for classic guys the boing bag 3 and a 100% working kickstart 3.9 in hardware (everything avaible, but can not be sold or offered to the community, like Moana).

I'm not interested in speculating about what could have been. I'd rather move on than get so worked up about things which didn't happen that I start wishing people were dead :roll:

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It doesn't work. QEmu doesn't emulate the proprietary chipset which OS4 checks for, so it won't boot.

Edit - Of course this isn't an issue for Moana... but AFAIK Moana requires OF, which QEmu doesn't support.

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bloodline wrote:
The question would be then, Why wouldn't Moana boot in PearPC?

Does PearPC support OpenFirmware?

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I wasn't being sarcastic, I actually didn't know whether it supports OF or not :-)

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I already had my counter-argument ready in case it did support OF, so I knew I was safe either way ;-)

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Excellent! Downloading now! :-D Can't wait to get home and see whether this works.

BTW ck007, I love your avatar. Is (s)he a Staffie?

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Machine Model:   PowerMac10,1
 CPU Type:   PowerPC G4  (1.1)
 Number Of CPUs:   1
 CPU Speed:   1.42 GHz
 L2 Cache (per CPU):   512 KB
 Memory:   256 MB
 Bus Speed:   167 MHz
 Boot ROM Version:   4.8.9f1

ATI Radeon 9200:

 Chipset Model:   ATY,RV280
 Type:   Display
 Bus:   AGP
 VRAM (Total):   32 MB
 Vendor:   ATI (0x1002)
 Device ID:   0x5962
 Revision ID:   0x0001
 ROM Revision:   113-xxxxx-116


I get a black screen with num/scroll/caps lock stuck on :-(

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If enough people test Moana, then it should be possible through a process of elimination to establish exactly what is preventing it from working properly, and hopefully then work towards fixing the boot CD to work around it.

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@amigadave
Hopefully Moana is enough for someone to get it working. Then there's little AInc can do - it's already out there!

@orange
I think the information from System Profiler (the stuff people have been posting) is probably enough. There is more information in there, but from the sounds of it the video card and firmware version are the stumbling blocks. I think once the working combinations have been identified it should be possible to work out why some machines don't work, and whether a fix is possible.

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@TheMagicM
Nope, got a boxed copy of OS4 sitting in a drawer upstairs :-)

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