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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« on: December 03, 2007, 03:16:59 PM »
I'm not counting on Hyp/AInc/ACube doing anything official. And I too am worried that there will be no future releases of OS4. So I have ordered a copy in anticipation of an unofficial "fix" being released which will allow it to run on a PPC Mac.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 06:35:56 AM »
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Faerytale wrote:
"It's not piracy, if you buy a program it's yours to do with as you please so long as you don't distribute it to others"

You never "own" a software you buy. You only buy a license that gives you the right to use it.

You dont have the right to do whatever you want with it.
You have to agree to the license agreement of the specified software.

The EULA to which you are referring is *not* legally binding. An end user has no legal obligation to run software they buy only on the hardware the vendor wants him to. I have purchased a legal copy of OS4, and I am legally entitled to run it on whatever hardware I choose, and there's nothing AInc or anyone else can do about it.

Also, if somebody releases a patch for OS4 to allow it to run on non-Amiga hardware, then this is not piracy, since piracy refers to copyright theft, not the modification of software for which one owns a license.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 04:27:47 PM »
Well legal or not, I'm now convinced that this works. Having had another suggestion from AmigaMac, I got my copy of the OS4 boot CD to boot on my Mac Mini and get as far as launching ExecSG, and then it just went to a black screen. I assume this is because my model of Mac Mini isn't the same as the one the boot CD is written for, which apparently causes problems with the video driver.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 07:29:42 PM »
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Colani1200 wrote:
Did you try this with the OS 4 classic CD? I read somewhere that the A1 version is needed, maybe that is the problem.

It doesn't ask for another CD, so I assume it just boots from the boot disc. Unless I'm missing something...

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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 10:03:30 PM »
Just watched Alex's video. This definitely works.

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20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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50  NEXT C
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 10:08:36 AM »
It just gets you to the kickstart screen. It's only a matter of time before someone works out how to boot an OS4 install CD.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 10:35:24 AM »
I suspect he took it down to avoid repercussions from AInc.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 12:06:57 PM »
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 12:25:22 PM »
I will delete the torrent at the end of the day so please re-create new torrents or upload the file to web space or share the file on eMule.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 01:18:34 PM »
Excellent - thank you! I've taken the torrent down.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 01:39:22 PM »
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Whether he gets unbanned  or not, he shouldn't return there. Enough hostillity on EAB, specially on the thread AmigaMAC user created.

Agreed! I was quite shocked by some of the responses in that thread.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
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50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 04:54:48 PM »
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A1260 wrote:
Good luck in killing of AOS!!

 :-x

Oh give it a rest. AmigaOS is already dead unless some of the talented developers in Amiga world can run it. If those people can't get hold of an A1 or a PPC board then that's not going to happen. OS4 running on cheaper hardware is the only way it's got a chance.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 05:21:12 PM »
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Zac67 wrote:
Actually, enabling additional hardware to run AOS4 breathes some new life into the platform - with so few PPC boards around.

My point exactly :-)

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 05:36:31 PM »
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MarkWatson wrote:
Just to clarify, because I'm a bit swamped by posts here. Its a patch to the Classic edition right?

No. It's a bootloader to get the OS4 kernel up and running. As you can see in the video this leaves you at an Amiga kickstart screen. What will subsequently boot is yet unknown (OS4 Classic? OS4 A1? Nothing?).

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 05:47:57 PM »
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AI just don't like it, because that way it destroys the market for their overpriced (A1) or vapor (ACK) hardware dongles.

That and piracy of their OS. I doubt they are too concerned with A1 owners booting the OS4 up on a mini-Mac, but the piracy of their OS by those not owning a A1 should be of high concern to them.  I expect to see emergency petitions going to the Federal court sometime this week by AI and Itec.

This boot CD is useless without an actual copy of OS4. It just lets you boot OS4 itself.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10