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Offline motorollin

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Re: bluetooth
« on: November 27, 2006, 10:28:00 PM »
Those devices are wireless parallel ports. One connects to the parallel port of the computer, the other connects to the printer. They use standard parallel port protocols to communicate so it is fully compatible with any parallel device, but the information is sent between the two units using bluetooth.

This device will not allow you to use bluetooth devices through the parallel port. It will only work with the corresponding printer part.

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Re: bluetooth
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 07:38:42 AM »
@platon24
What does that 10,000 get you? The right to develop a Bluetooth stack? Or some insider knowledge on the protocols?

@Piru
Spot on. Bluetooth is used as the physical and transport layers, but the protocol sitting on top of that is IEEE 1284.

@Xanxi
If the bluetooth device is sending RS232 serial data encapsulated in bluetooth packets, and the bluetooth transceiver you have connected to your serial port is capable of stripping out the bluetooth protocol from each packet and passing it to the serial port as bare RS232 data, then it could work. But this relies on the device sending such data (RS232 encapsulated in Bluetooth). In reality, most Bluetooth devices use protocols which are part of the full Bluetooth stack rather than wrapping RS232 in Bluetooth transport protocols. This means a full implementation of the Bluetooth stack would be required for AmigaOS to understand the traffic.

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Re: bluetooth
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 05:47:41 PM »
What I said about serial packets encapsulated in Bluetooth protocols was only in relation to Xanxi's serial port Bluetooth PDA connection thingy, which he said allowed serial PDAs to connect to the serial port through Bluetooth. Presumably these work in a similary way to bluetooth parallel ports, which wrap IEEE1284 packets in Bluetooth protocols to transport them.

I'm aware that USB bluetooth is much more complicated (and proprietary) - which is why I said a full bluetooth stack would be necessary for this to work.

If you develop a Bluetooth stack without their help, do you still have to pay the 10,000 if you want to release it?

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