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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« on: March 30, 2010, 12:13:34 PM »
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Thx to the creators! Albeit slow, it's an important bit of software for 3.x systems.


but hope come it go faster soon.
netsurf team have add the diskcache for netsurf

http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org/2010-March/001826.html

But its a Version 2.5 and AOS 68k use 3.0 which have a diffrent plotterinterface.So there need also wait if netsurf devs add the cache to 3.0.

They do enhance 2.5 because nobody change the plotter interface currently so risc OS does not work well with 3.0.

netsurf SDL all in all is fast, it can show a big page full of antialiazed text with 831 lines (which are most more than 80 chars in length)and 74 kb in size in 5 sec on a classic.every line contain a HTML command.

normaly antialiased Text draw is slowest a browser do.  
the testfile i use is the ibrowse history.html file.

ibrowse can show the file 5* faster but ibrowse do no AA.

Real world pages are lots smaller, contain lots fewer text, and loading of a page is longer (even if load from RAM)there is elsewhere the slowdown and not in SDL.

maybe the new cache and less ram usage speed up netsurf more
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 12:19:53 PM by bernd_afa »
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 09:42:30 AM »
>On linux SDL has many output options, even aalib (ascii) and libcaca (ansi), I never >grasped why SDL on amiga is limited to RTG only.

because its the only way to get a usefull speed.
We read often now netsurf is too slow on 68k.so what sense it have to make it even more slower by support AGA ?

the programmers of linux portable soft near all have a machine that is faster than 2 GHZ today, so its clear, they write not optimal code that it run good on 50 MHZ or 700 MHZ systems, because writing faster code cost more time.And as you can see developing Software cost lots time.and compiling cost also lots time.

also on Linux there are lots more developers here.
maybe somebody make a bounty so that SDL support AGA or aalib on AOS.when you want something that nobody want do for free, money makes it.
But i guess nobody want pay for SDL AGA.

I have no time for such funny things(even if there is a bounty) i want use netsurf, i am sure nobody use netsurf on AGA its more the oh it can work on my machine i buy before 15 year feeling.

and for that there is no time here.

@drummerboy.have you really no other computer as a AGA Amiga ?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2010, 09:48:02 AM by bernd_afa »
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 07:37:41 PM »
Neuer Shell-Prozeß 17
17.h0:wbstartup> h1:NetSurf
>The strangest thing happened when I installed Netsurf on WinUae. After extracting all >files and setting things up, it loads up netsurf. Then if I close down netsurf and try to >reload it, nothing happens

after some surf, i get same Problem.I start then netsurf from shell with option -v.it dos not find the fonts.I have the fonts in netsurf dir.very strange

17.h1:NetSurf> netsurf -v
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 102: version '3.0 (Development)'
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 109: NetSurf on , node , release , version <45.57>, machine
 
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 111: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/Options' for Options file
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 114: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/en/messages' as Messages file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 154: curl_version libcurl/7.19.5 OpenSSL/0.9.7m zlib/1.2.4
utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 72: Built user agent "NetSurf/3.0 (AmigaOS; m68k)"
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 211: cURL linked against openssl
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for tftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for telnet
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for dict
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for http
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for https
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftps
content/fetchers/fetch_data.c fetch_data_initialise 65: fetch_data_initialise called for data
framebuffer/gui.c gui_init 401: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/Aliases' as Aliases file
framebuffer/gui.c gui_init 410: Using 'file:////h1/NetSurf/Resources/default.css' as Default CSS URL
framebuffer/gui.c process_cmdline 342: argc 1, argv 0x11082028
framebuffer/font_freetype.c ft_face_requester 84: Could not find font (code 2)

framebuffer/font_freetype.c ft_face_requester 99: Loaded face from

framebuffer/font_freetype.c fb_new_face 124: Could not find font face PROGDIR:Fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf (code 2)

framebuffer/font_freetype.c fb_font_init 172: Could not find default font (code 0)

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 03:03:14 PM »
> Maybe >others have experienced the same problem and have discovered a fix?

I find out the Problem is netsurf write something in the Option File.

this are the last lines

fb_input_devpath:
fb_input_glob:
fb_font_monochrome:0

after a V1.7beta start it write this in options file.

fb_face_sans_serif:
fb_face_sans_serif_bold:
fb_face_sans_serif_italic:
fb_face_sans_serif_italic_bold:
fb_face_monospace:
fb_face_serif:
fb_serif_bold:              

when other not get this problems, i think copy the dejavue fonts to fonts dir help, or add valid font entries to netsurf fonts.

but maybe thats fix in newer versions, the last netsurf with new cache is experimental and maybe at middle or end of April there is better version here.

>with a local copy of bild.de, no heavy testing due to no stationary www connection on at >this time.

with local files i guess the cache that reduce internet access cant speedup much.
but i never get it working that netsurf show local pages without internet access.When i switch off my connection, then netsurf hang
« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 03:06:38 PM by bernd_afa »