Amiga, Inc: Close That Open Hardware!

[AmiGR]

No, my dear Alkemyst. The petition is not boycotting
anything.
I singed it and I plan to buy OS4. I will not buy the
AmigaONE for my own reasons (it's not a platform I
like).
It doesn't state ANYWHERE in the petition that we
should boycott anything. The petition is collecting
signatures to send to Amiga Inc.

[AmiGR]

They said that they plan to port it to Macs if they can.
They also said that they will port it to anything if they
can find the resources.

[AmiGR]

There are *MANY* shops here in Greece selling PCs
and parts, that assemple systems themselves and
sometimes ship them with an illegal version of
windows. The support is excellent in all of them,
regardless not having an OEM licence with Microsoft.

[AmiGR]

It did run on the Teron/AmigaONE boards with the old
Softex (crappy) BIOS. They do not support PPCBoot
though. Only Softex and SmartFirmware.

[AmiGR]

(OT) I personally want to run both solutions.
I want MorphOS and I'll buy it. I want OS4 and I'll buy
it too. I want a Pegasos and I'll buy it to run MorphOS
and linux. I DON'T want an AmigaONE (for my own reasons, I don't like it as a piece of hardware) and
I will not buy it. I just believe that the licence scheme
Amiga Inc has set will not help the Amiga market.
It will shrink it even more, making matters MUCH
worse. Believe what you want but most people
believe that that's the truth.

[AmiGR]

Ehm, sorry but Genesi don't restrict what you can
run on their boards. They just don't want to sign
anything with Amiga Inc. cause the last thing they
signed was a miserable failiure on the A Inc. part.

[AmiGR]

They DIDN'T rule out dual booting with MOS.
They just don't want a box with AmigaOS4 only.

[AmiGR]

I have NO faith in Amiga Inc anymore.
You say that BB is a liar and at the same time you say
that Amiga Inc are telling the truth about everything!
Does NOT compute.
Are THESE truths:
"OS4 is near completation" (last year, about the
"inhouse" OS4 they were "developing")
"The Escena AmigaOne is almost ready"
"We will sue the MorphOS team"
"MorphOS is illegal".
Let alone the coupon issue. They are CLOWNS.
Rethink what you wrote in a year. You'll see who's
lying about some issues.

[AmiGR]

And who is a true Amiga fan? Somebody that worships Amiga Inc or someone who supported
the market and bought any products to do that
while Amiga Inc or ANY Amiga Inc was scratching
it's butt?
Sorry, my friend but a true Amiga fan cares about the
Amiga companies and the Amiga market, not Amiga
Inc. solely.

[AmiGR]

Eyetech didn't develop ANYTHING. They are a distributor of a board made by Mentor Arc Inc (MAI)
with a bios from Hyperion.

[AmiGR]

Helgis75 wrote:
We'll see...at the end, all of you who have been listening to Bill Buck/BPlan/Genesi will end up like fools because of serving lies about the AmigaOne and OS4...People know better than that...
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I didn't spread any lies about the AOne or OS4.
And keep in mind that the stuff about Genesi sueing
Amiga Inc isn't a lie and it isn't for a minor case.

At least there is a great faith in the new owners of the Amiga than any other owners in the past!
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Yep, there's a faith that they are clowns. At least they
contracted some serious people to do the job.

Remember a lot of people have already put a lot of money in ordering the AmigaOne, so you can picture it yourself and ask yourself why the interest for the AmigaOne/OS4 is so huge! This really tells the tale!
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So, Amiga Inc is responsible for all that? LoL:)

Trying to blame Amiga Inc and their partners with NO good reasons just because they actually do an excellent job is pointless and far too pathetic!
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I didn't blame their partners. Amiga Inc alone.
Ok, I did blame Eyetech for lying on the bug issue
but that's a different matter. They claimed that it's
all fud and that there's no bug and a week after that
they posted that they now have a fix. You can't fix
a non-existing bug, can you?

I am not the only one awaiting the AmigaOne. There are actually many, including my new Norwegian Kay!
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So? What's your point?

This should clear it out, i guess!
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Hm.

[AmiGR]

I followed the news more closely and internally than you might think.
Amiga Inc doing their best for the Amiga community?
Ok... If you say so... They EXPLOITED IT in the WORST
way...
I didn't give up waiting about anything... I use MorphOS and I'll use OS4 in parallel when it gets released.
I just don't like the AmigaONE motherboard for my own reasons. I will not buy it for these reasons.

[AmiGR]

How ironic, AmigaOne is actually very similar to the Pegasos...Saying that you don't want the AmigaOne but the Pegasos doesn't make it a fair argument!
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Very similar but not the same. As I said, I've got my
own reasons for my choice. I've got the right to choose
and I don't need anyone to question my choice.

And the new Amiga-companies are actually concentrating more on the working-issue than wasting a lot of time in talking like politicans..!
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Yeah, right. I guess you missed Fleecy and Bill's "PR"...

Would you want them to just address a lot of things, and not being able to do anything?! I think NOT!
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Excuse me? Are you serious? I don't ask them to be
in the forums all day but some REAL PR wouldn't
hurt.

Think about about that the next time you open your mouth...AmiGR!
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I think more than you believe.

 :smack:

[AmiGR]

HAH! The last time it was on show was at the Aachen show, with 30 machines running it nicely.
Check your facts. The pointer was jumping cause
debug was on and (afaik) driver probs on that show
you were talking about. MorphOS is running QUITE
nicely and everyday, more people are able to tell you.

But tracking down AmigaOS/AmigaOne-fans doesn't help you!
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You don't know me and neither you know if I do what
you say.

[AmiGR]

Ever think that Eyetech said there wasn't a bug because they knew the issue was being fixed? I seriously doubt that MAI implemented fixes for the chipset in one week. (And since Eyetech is partnered with MAI, they would have known about it.)
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Ehm, I know up to who made the fix specifically, so
don't bother.

Wouldn't one also think that Genesi would have some insight in to the fix too?
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Genesi knew about this for a long long time. They were the ones to prove that the bug exists. MAI
weren't able to reproduce it till Gerald Carda visited
them and showed em. Also, guess why he spend
2 weeks there .

Seems that if they're doing good good business with MAI they would have been told about it.. Yet they put all the spin around the "april" fix and make it appear that the Teron boards aren't going to function properly without it.

The April fix is not the same as the fix Eyetech has.
The April fixes that bug (+others) without the need
of software tweaks. The fix eyetech has is an
HW+SW one.