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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« on: February 23, 2003, 12:06:55 PM »
1) "MorphOS is illegal, they recompile OS3.1 sources"
2) "There are no bugs in the Articia S. That's what
people that buy their firmware get"
3) "MorphOS this and that"
... So don't throw stones while being in a glass house.

BTW, what would you do if bPlan did NOT find the
Articia S bugs? Gerald made the  fix MAI used in
the Teron board sent to Eyetech some time ago.
That's why he KNEW that the bug wasn't really
fixed.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2003, 05:05:36 PM »
and furthermore...
MorphOS is illegal.
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Proove it or lose all creditability you had in my mind as an intelligent curious user.
BTW, you're spreading the worse kind of FUD. How do people call people that do that? Right... "Troll!"

And don't give me this crap about api this and api that.
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You remind me small children that close their ears
and start shouting "Ni ni ni ni" every time you try to
correct them about something. Where should those
children be held? RIght... in the kindergarten.

That's horse hocky and you know it.
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As longs as you can't proove it, your head is horse hocky.
BTW, it's illegal to start claiming that a product is illegal and not prooving it. You can say that your
product is better than another (has been done by
both parties) but not claim #### about the legallity of
any product.

I will not accept any reply that doesn't answer all
questions as a valid reply to anything. Go figure.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2003, 05:08:53 PM »
No, it's you that needs to know when to shut up,
cause when the OWNER of some IP can't prove that
a product is illegal, hardly anybody can. BTW, if
Genesi was Amiga Inc or Harald Frank you would be
sued by now.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2003, 05:12:39 PM »
Prove your claims that MOS has been based on
Amiga source code you idiot. Can you? NO, you CANNOT.
Even Ben Hermans, who is a LAWYER couldn't.
Amiga Inc COULDN'T! Will YOU be able to do so?
I REALLY don't think so.
BTW, I wonder if you would say the same if you knew
what happened with the Amiga Inc-bPlan case where
people blame laire for not giving MOS to A. Inc...
I also wonder what you would do if Amiga Inc didn't
want to develop AmigaOS, MorphOS was started at
such a time.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2003, 05:16:17 PM »
As long as you can't prove your truth, it's a truth only
according to your brain, not according to any law
in the universe. The most basic law in EVERY country
is that everyone is innocent until prooved other wise.
It is illegal to break that.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2003, 05:20:06 PM »
Neither. MorphOS is an OS on which A/Box runs, an
AROS based AmigaOS API clone that includes many
improvements over the original API. Not everything is
based on AROS, exec and other stuff are Ralph's work.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2003, 05:33:08 PM »
The AmigaOS is EXTREMELY well documented.
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, is explained in
the autodocs and the programmer books. All the
functions, what they do and how they do it, can be found. With Windows, it would be difficult,  not even
half of the OS is documented while AmigaOS
programmers have access to everything.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2003, 05:37:05 PM »
Oh come on, Amiga In just does NOT have the money to sue.
If they did, they would pay their employees and would
show up in court when one of these employees sued
them not to let the court make the default decision.:).
Don't pretend not to know what I'm talking about.
Moreover, their lawyers wouldn't pull out of court all
the time.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2003, 05:44:01 PM »
Buy the NDK and if you find a line of AmigaOS code
in it, I'll eat my tongue. No, includes are NOT source
code, they are API definitions needed to program for
the system.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2003, 05:56:50 PM »
Sorry but you're wrong, AtheOS is not an AmigaOS
clone, it just looks like it. AROS and MorphOS are
AmigaOS clones. As long as you do it without having
seen the original source code, you can clone any API.
It's perfectly legal to do that. Lindows did it. MS lost
the court case against them. Wine does it every day.
Did they get sued by MS? MS has a A HELL OF A LOT
of money. Cloning an API for software interoperability
is legal.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2003, 06:36:24 PM »
Neither does the A/Box. Quark boots first, the A/Box
task is started afterwards.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2003, 06:46:19 PM »
I expected you not to answer... How long are you
gonna keep this off the users' ears Mike?
People need to know the truth about the current
Amiga Inc situation.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2003, 06:51:19 PM »
Hmm, immoral... So and so, it could be called immoral.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2003, 08:49:37 PM »
As I imagined... YOU DID NOT ANSWER.
*WHY* didn't McEwen pay his employee (I won't say
his name, you know him, I don't want to get him in a
flamewar without his consent) and *WHY* didn't he
show up in court when that employee sued him if
he did have the money to pay him AND the money for
the lawyer? :)
I you REALLY love Amiga Inc, you'd better SPIT IT OUT
before I DO! The remaints of this community needs
anything BUT liars! Yes, Mike, if you STILL cover this
story up you're no better than a LIAR!.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2003, 09:53:50 PM »
I don't understand what that smiley should be good for. IMO the story is quite without dignity and involves much back-stabbing.
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Not paying an employee and keep telling him that
you'll pay him IS backstabbing...

Some time ago, Amiga Inc was struggling and employees were told to be paid when proper funding arrived.
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"Some time ago"...

The specific employee was asked to leave, but he wouldn't.
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You cannot fire an employee if you owe him money.
It's illegal.

After a while Genesi comes into the picture, when confidential information regarding these internal problems comes to their knowledge and offers to fund a lawsuit against Amiga Inc for this employee.
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Is that what McEwen told you? Heh... discrediting
Genesi even for your internal afairs... PATHETIC.

Due to the issues mentioned earlier, no proper defence was prepared and thus they lost by default.
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No proper defence doesn't necesserily mean NOT
GO TO COURT AT ALL! Neither does it mean NOT
paying the employee AFTER losing the court:)

Bill McEwen made various *very large* personal sacrifices to keep Amiga Inc going and afterwards managed to secure some additional funding.
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We shall see that.

Just like Jay Miner, Bill has done and still does everything he can to keep his Amiga dream alive and luckily they are currently in a better position today.
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!!!! DO NOT PUT JM IN THE SAME LINE AS BILL MCEWEN !!!!

Jay Miner is the father of the Amiga, what did Bill do
about it? Ruin the name...
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