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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« on: April 15, 2011, 09:25:21 PM »
Quote from: Khephren;631842
It's not just age that causes distortion, it's location. Amiga's were an also-ran platform in the U.S by the late '80's. U.S users see the Amiga as a minnow, EU users see it as a fallen giant.


That is a lot of it.  The last Amiga I ever saw in a shop was the A600.  I was working in a Software Etc.  We got the A600 in, it ran OS2.0 and half of the software on our shelves wouldn't run it.  The Amiga section was already 1/10 of the PC section, and now, even half of that wouldn't run.  That was when I knew the Amiga was dead.

It wasn't until years later that I even knew that the 1200 existed, and it wasn't until 2008 that I actually saw one in real life.

@runequester

I think you are suffering a bit from your own described syndrome.  If you look at the threads on this board, the hostility comes from the anti-x86 crowd.  Go to the RetroReplay threads.  No one is complaining about that.  Everyone is universally excited.  Some are not interested in buying one, but they appreciate what it is.  The Natami threads used to be negative, not so much out of a dislike of what it is, but out of a disbelief that it could be produced.  Now that it is showing some actual progress, people are much more friendly towards it.  After the holy wars based around the idea that there was a rightful heir, MorphOS is accepted as a fun alternative OS, as is OS4.  Criticism is generally mild, and intended as constructive to the discussion.  The biggest complains in the PPC camp are centered around the cost of hardware for OS4.  Given the umph and cost, these are valid complaints.  Add to that, the fact that OS4 and PPC are not 'classic' Amiga, complaints about them cannot really be chalked up to Amiga Regret.

Now look at any thread concerning CUSA, and their desire to produce Amigas on x86.  They are full on flame fests.  People are vicious.  Alternate web sites have been set up for the sole purpose of bashing them.

It isn't a matter of people regretting the Amiga and trying to put it down.  Most people are perfectly comfortable with what it was.  The problem comes in with a conflict between the people that have emotionally moved on and accepted that x86 has evolved into a good platform, and those that are still carrying around their platform rage from the 80's.

You yourself keep exhibiting that behavior.  You kept asking the same questions over and over claiming that you couldn't understand why someone would want a computer that looked like a C64 and acted like a C64 that was brand new, as well as how that related to Amiga.  You would claim that you didn't understand why a company that has shown that it can and would produce replica retro computers that ran the retro software and had announced Amiga computers would be relevant on an Amiga board.  That isn't "Just being curious".  It is a passive aggressive attempt to push the idea that x86 is inferior.
 

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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 10:09:13 PM »
Quote from: runequester;631883
Let me give you a hint there mate. You know from my signature I use linux.
Let me give you a freebie then: Im not running it on PPC, ARM or 68K.

So what do you suppose I am running it on?


You throw that out there like it proves something.  It doesn't.  It just explains why you feel guilty.  Your like the guy that is worried that the two different girls he is dating might meet.  Me, I'll introduce them and all play together.
 

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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 11:33:20 PM »
Quote from: runequester;631890
You really have a complex about this whole thing huh.

Find a single post from me on this forum where I've professed to either
A: Hating x86 processors
B: Being a 68K processor fanboy.


Im happy playing your villain that you seem to need, but let's make with some actual proof instead.

How about the first post in this thread.  You don't say "I hate x86" or "I am a 68K fanboy".  

What you do is chime in over and over with passive aggressive comments about how x86 makes no sense.  How a company that has announced Amiga compatible computers branded as Amiga have no connection to Amiga because they are on x86 processors.

Playing innocent because you use passive aggressive language doesn't mean you are not saying it.  If I were to continually post "I don't understand why runequester thinks his opinion matters in any way", I would still be making a statement about you.  That is how being passive aggressive works.

Heck, even in the above post, you play passive aggressive.  You pretend to be a victim by claiming to be depicted unfairly as a villain in a thread that was passive aggressively complaining about x86, and peoples comments that Amiga wasn't perfect.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2011, 11:44:18 PM by Belial6 »
 

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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 11:51:49 PM »
@desiv

I added a couple of carriage returns for clarity.

The whole first post is passive aggressive complaining.  Do you think that runequester really believes that x86 solves everything?  Or do you think he was being sarcastic in an attempt passively aggressively say that x86 isn't worthy?  Do you think that he believe anyone actually thought PPC sucked at the time, or do you think he was passive aggressively implying that it is better than it is?

As for his comment about CUSA Amigas not being Amigas, that he repeatedly invades CUSA threads to post this in his passive aggressive attempt to discredit them.
 

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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 11:55:15 PM »
Are you trying to claim that

"That x86 solves everything"

was said in all honesty?  That you really believe that it solves everything?  I read that as sarcasm and a passive aggressive jab at systems running x86.

So, just to be clear... Are you now truly claiming without any sarcasm "That x86 solves everything"?
 

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Re: Amiga guilt and time distortion.
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 12:20:56 AM »
Quote from: runequester;631924
You read the post right?

So let me quote myself.

Ahem



Relevant parts in bold.

So tell me please, how do you go from A (my post) to B (your post) ?


You already know what I meant, so why this whole shell game of pretending I posted something else?

It seems everyone else got it just fine.


So, can you point to a single post that says "x86 solves everything"?  What you did was a classic strawman argument combined with passive aggressive complaining.