CUSA makes the BBC news site

[Belial6]

You keep asking athe same question, and keep getting valid responses.  What part of the many responses don't you understand?  Is it the part that people like the case?  Is it the part that hacking cases is not what MOST people want to do?  Is it the part where the machine is only about the case price more than the cost equivelent machines?  Is it the part that given the statements made by CUSA, and what they have accomplished so  far, people are interested in the software that is likely to be delivered?  The list goes on.

I took the first couple of times that you asked the same question as you just not getting it.  But, now you have had the question answered multiple times, and you just keep pretending like you haven't been answered.

[Belial6]

So the answer to what CUSA brings to the amiga brand is a C64 case, and the promise of a linux distribution?

You are right. I don't get it. Maybe Im getting dumber as Im getting older.


You can believe me or dismiss you at your leisure, but the reason I keep asking is that I am genuinely puzzled. All these years.. all the infighting and arguing and all the different projects, and this is what we were waiting for?

No, and I don't believe that you really are that dense.  I think you are putting HUGE effort into not understanding.

One thing they bring to the table is Case styling.  First a very good C64 case.  While their case is expensive, custom cases often are.  For example: http://www.xoxide.com/pccases.html#shop-by-featured

Look at the price of the C64x case alone, and you will find that the added cost of the rest of the computer is pretty much on par with what you would find elsewhere for similar equipment.  Heck, even TheDaddy's case was over a hundred dollars, and The C64x is a far more advanced case than that.  The complaints about price are simply not comparing apples to apples.

Second, you are fully aware that software wise CUSA is talking about more than just a linux distro.  They have been very clear that they want to start with linux as a jumping off point.  Just as Apple started with BSD as a jumping off point.  They are also talking about legal and pre-configured C64 and AmigaOS compatibility via emulation.  You are fully aware of that, and pretending like you don't know that is simply playing dumb.  You have been too involved in these conversations to have missed them, and you clearly brighter than that.

What that leaves us with is your repeated questions asking what CUSA brings to the table is simply trolling.  You don't WANT to know what they bring to the table, but try as you might, you certainly do know it.  It may not be for you, but putting your head in the sand isn't going to make it go away.  It also won't make you stop knowing the truth.

[Belial6]

A c64 case is entirely and completely irrelevant to the amiga.
As I've said repeatedly on this forum, once they have an "amiga" product, then we'll see, and I've even supported giving them their own forum, alongside morph, aros etc.

This is where your faking ignorance again.  I have personally explained that you you previously.  You may disagree, but you definitely understand that the C64 was Commodore's predecessor to the Amiga.  CUSA is claiming that they are following the same path and are going to release Amiga's also.  You may disagree with what defines "Amiga", but you definitely understand the connection.  You may not want to, but you do.  Continuing to claim that you are incapable of seeing anyone's point of view but your own is simply trolling.

Actually,when Barry answered some of my questions on this forum in the past, it seemed pretty clear that we're talking linux plus emulation.

Anything in writing, from the company, with specifics of more than linux+vice/UAE would be welcome, and actually be relevant and interesting news.

Yes, the method that they have been talking about in providing C64 and AmigaOS compatibility is via UAE.  Emulation is the ONLY way that compatibility can be achieved.  Every OS that isn't on a 68K is using emulation for compatibility with the 68k.  You are aware of this.  Pretending like you don't understand how this relates to Amiga is beyond silly.  And you can be sure that if DELL started talking big about including AmigaOS compatibility via emulation on their systems standard from the factory, they would definitely be discussed here.  You may not find a manufacturer shipping systems that can run Amiga 68k code standard interesting, but claiming that you don't understand why other people do is just trolling.

If there's actual evidence that they are developing some sort of OS themselves, I'd love to see it. /that/ would actually be interesting and highly relevant.
Anyone undertaking this effort in 2011 is either loaded beyond belief with money and talent or crazy. For all we know, Barry might be both.

They have stated their plan to use Linux as a starting point.  Just as Apple used BSD as a starting point.  This was explained to you in the very post you responded to.  You might not agree with it as a good direction to go.  You might believe they will fail, but you definitely understand why there is interest in it.  Pretending like you don't is simply trolling.

The truth is what is actually available for customers to buy. Nothing more. Nothing less.

So, just like a huge number of other Amiga related topics that you understand the interest in.  Again, pretending to not understand is simple trolling.

So we are basing this all on future promises then?

Partially yes, although CUSA has proven that they can do at least some things that many nay sayers have claimed they could not.  So, they have started to create credibilty to their claims.  Of course, you are certainly aware that credibility has never had a bearing on whether something is Amiga related or not.  So, trying to claim that you don't understand the relationship between CUSA and Amiga based on that is....Yep.  Trolling.

You are trying to sound "Reasonable" by claiming that you are not bitching, complaining or taking sides, and that you "I am genuinely missing what possible benefit CUSA is bringing to "the brand" that isn't already available with any other PC out there".  The fact is that you are bitching and complaining.  It isn't that there is something anything about CUSA that you don't understand.  It's that they are not pushing your particular strain of Amiga, and you don't get why everyone else doesn't just agree with you, and you feel that playing dumb makes you look better than taking the Franko route.