DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid

[Belial6]

Reported to YouTube.

PS - Hi everyone

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moto

Wait, did you just report to YouTube that someone was using your song without permission when that was a song made from you using someone else's song without permission?!?!?

[Belial6]

I have to say that you people own him an appology.  I have not had personal experience with him, so, I cannot support or defend the things he alledgedly did, but right here in this thread, we have character assasination.

Moto, you should be ashamed of yourself in perticular.  If you approach the subject of copyright from the 'copyright is stealing' POV, you ripped the guy off, and then went and reported him when he took his own property back.  Disgusting.  If you approach the subject of copyright from the from the 'information wants to be free' POV, your reporting of him was disgusting.  Apparently, you look at copyright from the 'anything I touch is mine' POV.

The fact that the rest of you jump non board and bash Doomy instead of Moto makes you part of the problem.

[Belial6]

Selles did not say that DoomMaster could sue Wayne.  He said that DoomMaster could sue Amiga.Org.  That means WHOEVER owns it.  The fact that Wayne doesn't own it anymore doesn't protect the current owners of the site in anyway from anything.
[Edit:  Selles does mention Wayne.  Other than that, his point is still correct.]

The claim that comments are owned by the poster doesn't hold water once comments start getting moderated.  While Amiga.org give wide leeway to it's members in what they say (and I am glad that they do), Amiga.org does have in it's TOS that personal attacks are not allowed, and has taken action to moderate against them when it suits them.  That means they have taken responsibility for deciding when and if slanderous statements will be allowed.  No doubt, they could take the stance that they don't moderate unless a user requests it, but once someone complains, they need to be consistent.  Selles is correct in the view that Amiga.org is opening themselves up when they have TOS forbidding this behavior, but let it run unchecked when directed at a particular individual.

Besides all that.  The behavior is shameful.  Much of the Amiga.org membership are like vultures, picking at a dead corpse.  Doomy is gone from this site.  His account is dead.  Let it move on.

[Belial6]

Holy crap, get a spellchecker.  No wonder no one takes you seriously.

Ahh yes, complaining about spelling.  'Internet' for "You are 100% correct, but since I too intellectually dishonest to admit that, I complain about your spelling instead of addressing the point of your post".

[Belial6]

CUSA used a drawing of a fantasy Amiga without permission, and got severley raked over the coals.

Motorollin uses DoomMasters Video without permission, then reports DoomMaster to YouTube for piracy when DoomMaster uses the modified version OF HIS OWN MUSIC in a new video, and people proceed to bag on DoomMaster, while giving Motorollin a hearty welcome back.

I think the sheer hypocrisy of the thread has caused some kind a stroke that damaged my internal spellchecker.  :eek:

That being said, it is still true that on the internet, when you believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the facts, when you don't believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the spelling.

[Belial6]

First we need to establish who owns the rights to the song (I would expect Commodore to have bought them lock stock an barrel)... So off you go and get that sorted out for us! Cheers x

No, we don't.  The only difference the original the owner of the song would make is whether DoomMaster is in judging DoomMaster.  It doesn't change the hypocrisy that has been shown by tearing CUSA apart for the same activity that you all seem perfectly fine with Motorollin for.

[Belial6]

I'm just going to say one more thing on the subject of this stupid track:

Doomy's original vocal performance: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors
My remix: uploaded to private web space and link provided, credit given to Doomy
Doomy's new video: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors

It's the dishonesty that bugs me, not the legality.

Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?

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moto

Complaining that he didn't give you credit for using his singing is one thing.  That's not what you did though.  You told YouTube that he was violating copyright.  And you did it over a soundtrack that you took in violation of copyright from him.

Now, understand, while I think that what you did was a jerky thing to do, even worse is the lynch mob that uses copyright violation as an excuse to abuse people they have decided to target, while treating others who do the same thing as long lost friends.

Personally, I don't think that what DoomMaster did with his original video is bad.  I don't think you using DoomMasters video was bad.  I don't think that what DoomMaster did with your video was bad.

While you may have been offended that he didn't give you credit for the source material that you edited, you reporting him WAS bad.  No doubt, you don't give credit EVERY single time that you repeat something you got from someone else.  For example, I suspect that you have sung 'Happy Birthday' to someone in your life, and I doubt that you gave credit when you did.

Worst of all is the double standard that this community places on copyright.  I'm sure that there are people that will want to point out that they didn't comment in one thread or another, but chiming in about the evils of copyright when it is someone you have decided that you don't like, but staying quit while someone else defends the person you like for the same thing is still hypocritical.  Double teaming your enemies doesn't make bad behavior good.

A good example is with Piru.  In the CUSA threads, he made post after post explaining how unethical CUSA are for violation copyright.  He puts links showing how he has been interested in copyright for a long time.  How he wasn't using copyright as an excuse to attack CUSA when the real reason was something else.  It is pointing that he has not 'noticed' this thread.  Based on his professed values, he should be in here ripping you a new one.  It is clear by the thread title that this thread involves discussions about copyright.

So, while I cannot guarantee that Piru didn't just happen to miss this thread, when we see the same 'just happen' repeating itself over and over again with most of the boards members, it becomes pretty clear what is going on.

Honestly, given that DoomMaster has been permanently banned from this site, it is of questionable behavior that the moderators don't immediately lock any thread discussing him.  Moderators allowing the posters to say ANYTHING they want about someone, when that person has been disallowed to respond in defense of themselves is not really up and up behavior.