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[Crom00]

Lemme Guess:
Tim Jennison is allowing the VT4 to be ported to Amiga os 4.1

[Crom00]

The whole puzzle riddle thing introduced by the x1000 announcement is getting old. Wasn't the last DiscreteFX riddle tied to the release of an upgrade or something?

[Crom00]

That's great news. Basically the Video Toaster Flyer was a non linear editor that took the video toaster 4 input switcher and added AB roll non linear video editing and video capture. The bountya pays $12000 and has a 2 year deadline. So in 2012 the Video Toaster flyer will be ported to FPGA.
Appliactions:
Zorro Toaster flyer in one card
A1200 slot video toaster flyer
MiniMig style video toaster flyer
Flyer FPGA add on for x1000

[Crom00]

Web is still very much sd resoltion alhtough non interlaced. Once you have an SD version an HD version is not far behind. For instance. The PC SD toaster was able to be updated to SD editing quite well. So you can capture in SD but edit HD sources.

This is a good thing. Also once it's IN FPGA how hard would it be to switch to NTSC or add a Time base corrector on the original toaster pal transcoding and tbc's were add ons with an FPGA implementation those can be integrated.

So this is good news. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[Crom00]

Not really the PAR in addition to the Flyer is a great add on as it's essentially another DDR that you can cut to. Also in a live switch environment it actually has quality that exceeds the flyer if used at the higher quality setting. The only thing is I had to leave enough padding at the start of a PAR anim when used in conjunction with the flyer. If you have the TBCIV it can actually capture video too. Cool thing about the Amiga video gear, you were always garunteed quality as everything used a TBC and was aimed at the pros.

[Crom00]

For those suggesting usb capture device... have you ever used one of these in a pro setting? Even today you have to shop around for one that doesn't drop frames, or suffer from lackluster quality as many of these devices are consumer level products not pro level products. There is a noticeable quality update when you move into pro products like the Tricaster or Toaster or Matrox products.

Believe me I know as I've tried many of them.

For those saying the Flyer is old analog tech... Umm it works digital once you capture the footage and you could output to component or yc or even save projects as a flyer clip digital file. Also the transition are totally digital.

I think a lot of folks are making comments and they've never really used the tech.
With lots of work this can be implemented into an FPGA and turned into an HD/SD product and yes USB provided it can match the quality and have built in TBC. At the time the toaster was made there was no TBC on a chip, they couldhavemade one but it would have added to cost (Tim Jennison told me so) nowdays that's much cheaper to do.

[Crom00]

@Pyromania,

The Flyers biggest strength was also it's achilies heel. At the time there really was no alternative platform that could allow them to deploy and develop the concept at that price as the Amiga was able to do so much with the NTSC signal out of the box.

Once folks found out it consisted of an Amiga as the underlying platform "legitamate firms" backed away as MS and Apple (and especially Commodore...lol) did a good job of spreading the idea that the Amiga as outdated tech.

Newtek sold systems that covered up the Amiga Branding with a toaster logo... that wasn't by accident.

All I know is I had a ball bustor of an investor walk in see what we were doing and plunk down for another system for sales videos. So that's testament to both the Flyers versatility and my skill

[Crom00]

In 2010 it's all digital in digital out, be it from DVD/AVI source or HD camera input. Nothing really gets used much in the oldskool analogue method,


Really? do you work in a live production environment? A pro level setup will be able to ingest video in ANY format. Analog, Digital, any file any codec. Also lots of folks will plugin component analog source and SDI or various signals. That was always the NewTek workflow or pipeline and I thing any FPGA iteration of the legacy Amiga Flyer should adopt the same idea.

Heck if they were able to adapt the Cassablanca series to more moder spec an FPGA FLyer would be do-able.

[Crom00]

I don't get how some are dead seat against this bounty and also suggest alternate uses for the money... if Dick Van Dicke and I assume it's him want's to dedicate $12k to the task so be it. I differ to his expertise on the matter as he's been in the industry ...I dunno all his life? hell the guy worked directly with Disney so if he gets it and understands the value of this platorm it's because he was around when the old skool studio system controlled everything.

[Crom00]

Thanx, your statements are all very true. The thing that hurts the Amiga Video Toaster & Flyer the most is people that have never used one just assume things and don't really know how great it was.

@Pyro

At the time I got the Flyer I had been burned by: VlaB motion on the high end, Iomega PC capture on the low end, and Media100 as it was still expensive. I had a toaster 4000 in a a desktop 4000 and got a Flyer rig off of someone on usenet. Back when Micropolis drives were used (should have been called Crapopolis as they all died) but the flyer was a workhorse. The only thing was you could not do was real time multilayered fx on a timeline, then again many systems from that era couldn't do that at the Flyers price point. The flyer gave to A and B with a Still Store/GFX overlay

I think it was bested only by the avid (industry standard but uber expensive) and Meda100 it was the best option out there and at least with the toaster you could always switch live.

Even today such a setup is useable for internet video as it has a 4 input switcher. If you have one connect the output to a anallog to firewire converter and you can econde that to flash streaming media with a cheap laptop and an A4000 or A2000 Toaster you  stream to the net (without a Tricaster).