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UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« on: January 07, 2007, 11:58:36 AM »
I never saw a UFO or anything inexplicable, so I have no reason to believe that UFOs exist. We've all seen those shaky out of focus camcordings purporting to be something out of this world and none are in the least convincing. Anyway, scanning a few UFO videos on Google.com, I saw one which quite amazed me (several actually including this) and I wondered if anyone has a conviction that UFOs/ETs actually do visit us? Before jumping in with your logical answer, watch this first.

Sorry if this is old hat, but UFOs are not top of my agenda.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 04:26:05 PM »
Agreed, but watch the video first.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 10:36:17 PM »
@Cymric
Ok, the WTC UFU video was a commercial setup, thanks for the link. I haven't bothered reading Crank.com's perspective on the Disclosure Project. Just browsing their various snippets gives me the impression that they're not the best people to believe. The question of motive for alien visitation is also a  good one. Carl Sagan's persusion that targetting Earth was infinitesimally improbable is beautiful in its simplicity (see 'Cosmos' - I forget which chapter/episode). Interestingly, Sagan was also part of the US Government's expert panel for debunking the UFO myth in the 60s (I think it was). All this I've picked up in the last couple of days.

However, the main video regarding the Disclosure Project itself is something different.  So I ask my question again....

Are ALL these people crazy?

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 08:46:52 PM »
@all
I  haven't speculated on UFOs or ETs, just asked people to watch the video before answering my question.

Has everyone watched the video?

Remember, some of these individuals were responsible for issuing launch codes for America's nuclear weapons. Some had their finger actually on the launch button. These people aren't your 'average' witness.

Are these people (and another 380 like them) 'crazy'? Are the objectives set down those of crazy people? You cannot answer the questions without watching the video.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 02:53:07 PM »
@jkirk
The video is nearly two hours long and is basically a US National Press Club public meeting in Washington DC. The aim is to introduce the 'Disclosure Project'. There are no UFO/ET videos, only the statements of several ex. high ranking Army/CIA/Gov/Scientific people as to why they believe in the Project's aims and that they wish to meet with the US Senate under oath to provide evidence. The basic objective, amongst others,  in all this is the de-weaponisation of space. That to me is worth their efforts.

Unless people watch the video, there's little point in trying to answer the question. It's a new perspective (to me anyway) on the 'UFO Issue'. I'm not seeking a discussion on UFOs, just your opimion on the people in the video. Are they crazy?

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »
@Karlos
Even the old Drake Equation of the 60s puts the statistical likelyhood of other life in the Universe at quite highly probable.

Recent modifications, taking into account new discoveries and especially the large number of identified exoplanets, would indicate the statistical probability is 100%.

None of that is relevant to UFOs/ETs, but it's interesting.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 08:36:20 PM »
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No, because it's a 2 hour film on a topic which doesn't really interest me. I asked for a short overview or summary, or a pointer to the important bits.


I assume you think it's about UFOs (which don't interest you). The underlying issue is far more sinister and will interest anyone who dislikes the way Americans are governed.

Anyway, there's a 40 minute overview of the subject here.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 08:57:08 PM »
@Karlos
Yes, you can prove almost anything using mathematics/statistics.

Going back to your earlier point about the lack of radio signals, I agree, the apparent failure of SETI and its like to detect even the smallest evidence makes the ET issue a bit of a damp squib. However, I wonder if part of this failure is down to the control wielded by the 'black project' management that runs the American Government. I believe one or two of the witnesses in the Disclosure Project (ref. the video) were associated with SETI and such and are telling different accounts to the ones we all hear about.

Apparently, the live broadcast (webcam) of this meeting attracted such worldwide interest it recorded the largest audience for such in the history of the Internet.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 01:16:18 AM »
@all
Anyone watched the video yet?
Are all these people crazy?
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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 08:23:13 PM »
@X-ray
Agreed. It may well be the case that 'alien' craft/UFOs and various 'Black Projects' are one and the same thing. Worldwide and free application of whatever technology powers such vehicles would seem to be the crux of Disclosure Project's objectives.

What's your impression of the witnesses. All they ALL crazy?
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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 11:17:52 AM »
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twizzle wrote:
- - - - - and stopped still for a few minutes then about 6/8 lights came on and shot off at such a speed like a comet.mmmmmm
(i dont tell lies or make up stories)


Sounds very much like this event. Note the lights before it goes.

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Re: UFOs - Are ALL these people crazy?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 08:33:32 PM »
@twizzle
Another of the CIA's Black Projects eh?
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