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OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why? - ALL SORTED
« on: August 03, 2008, 01:29:46 AM »
I've done a fresh install of OS3.9 on my A1200. I have a BlizzardPPC card with 256Mb Fast RAM.

OS3.9 boots with only about 8000bytes of chip mem left - meaning nothing can really be opened. The only extra software on top of this fresh OS3.9 install is the FASTATAMk-III driver.

I seem to remember a "use fast mem first" type of command, but can't find anything like it. I've installed OS3.9 before and not had this issue...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 10:37:20 AM »
Still having issues with this. The program chewing all the chip mem is the FastATA MkIII driver. With the driver not running I have around 1,900,000bytes of chip mem. Once the ATA driver is run I have about 9000 bytes left. I've tried all kinds of "use fast mem first" settings in workbench and with countless aminet patches, along the lines of those recommended.

Surely I can't be the only one with this problem, and the solution can't really be that hard. Is there a syntax I can add to the ATA driver command when first running it that'll force it to use fast mem? Any more suggestions?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 11:27:03 AM »
Main HD 4g/3 partitions. Secondary drive 40g/2 partitions. 1 dvd burner as well. I don't consider this excessive...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 10:32:26 AM »
The unit is only about 3 weeks old and I'm using the software that came with it. To double check, where can the latest drivers be gained from?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 12:34:04 AM »
I've checked. I am using the latest drivers. Any other suggestions. I might email elbox to see what they say?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 01:28:49 PM »
@x303 - that was it - thankyou. The buffers were set at 600 units for the partitions. I read the OS3.9 manual which recommends 30-50 buffers per partition. I changed the values, rebooted, and volia...1.8Mb of chip mem free...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 01:51:52 PM »
The buffmemtype is set to "512".
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2008, 02:02:13 PM »
Just did a net search. Is the following correct...bufmemtype 0,1=Any, 2,3=Chip, 4,5=Fast RAM?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2008, 02:31:54 PM »
Changed the bufmemtype for all partitions to 5. There is now 2,02x,xxx bytes of chip mem on startup, which is about 1.9xmb. There is a bit of speed up as well.

Thanks Piru...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 12:12:01 PM »
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Where "Exactly" did you change all the Partitions bufmemtype value to 5?


I'd have to bootup to verify "exactly" where it was done. From memory it was in OS4, using Partition Wizard, in the Partition Details section...or something along those lines. OS3.9 would probably have a similar section in HDToolBox. See how you go with this...I can always look a bit further for you if you need...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2008, 11:14:47 AM »
You're all right, this thread is all part of a big conspiracy  :roll:

"Exactly" how I changed the bufmemtype is like this: Using OS4, running Media Toolbox, I selected the hard drive I wished to edit. I clicked on "Edit Partitions and Filesystems". I selected the first partition and clicked on "Select Filesystem/Edit Details". I then changed the "bufmemtype" to 5. I then selected the remaining 2 partitions and changed the "bufmemtype" in the same way. I then saved the config and closed the program. I then rebooted into OS3.9 to have the lost chip mem back.

I think the problem I had can be traced back to setting up the partitions using OS4, not OS3.9. When I have setup partitions in the past using OS3.9 I haven't had any memory issues. However, prior to installing OS3.9 this time, the partitions were setup using OS4. It looks like OS4 by default sets the bufmemtype to a setting that is not ideal - that is to use chip mem for the buffers. I'd say that OS3.9 by default sets that bufmemtype to 5, which is fast memory, which is ideal...and hence there shouldn't be a problem and hence need to attempt to change the bufmemtype if partitions are setup under OS3.9.

I just had a look a minute ago in HDToolBox under OS3.9. I looked around and found no similar field to bufmemtype. Is it changeable using OS3.9? I don't know.

I have noticed the "bufmemtype" field in some mountlists before. I see no reason why this can't be edited to change the bufmemtype for a device with a mountlist.

I hope this helps...
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 09:54:23 PM »
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Okay Astral, but at least have the decency to "Edit" your first post Title Please & State OS4.0 & not OS 3.9!


Why?

The problem I was having was with OS3.9 booting with very low chip mem, not OS4. The problem is now solved. The title reflects this. The thread contains the details of how it was solved.
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2008, 09:23:09 AM »
@Kin-Hell

Mate - seriously - is the attitude necessary?

@Moderators

What do you believe is necessary to do to this thread?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2008, 12:29:17 AM »
@Kin-Hell

What do you suggest the title be changed to?
 

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Re: OS3.9 boots with very low chip mem left - why?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 12:32:55 AM »
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The interesting thing should be how the hell he had bufmemetype at 256, at first place!


The reason is mentioned in a previous post of mine in this thread.