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This annoys me
« on: November 10, 2013, 04:19:51 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLlxq5LSlo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Today's kids shown a c64 by someone who doesn't know how a c64 works.
Things that annoy me
1. He says about an error loading games and it worked yesterday. Well maybe if he didn't press runstop to break out of the loading procedure and why shake the tape?
2. Again he says the game has got a loading error common for loading cassette tapes. Errors were not that common due to the c64 datasette and there is nothing to suggest the game has stopped loading.
3. 10 minutes later? For buggy boy? Don't think so.

Basically he lies a lot and makes out common misconceptions about the c64 are fact in an attempt to make his segment on the news funnier but it doesn't work.
 

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Re: This annoys me
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 10:19:43 PM »
Disk drives were rare in the UK. Most people went for the datasette unit and the majority of games came on cassette.
There is a myth that cassettes had high load failure rates and took over 10 mins to load.
 

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Re: This annoys me
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 10:24:43 PM »
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To be honest I thought it was a nice clip. He gets the kids interested and I think that's more important then if he is doing best practice when it comes to loading a tape. Also I don't really think he lies!



As I said
Lie 1 he says there is a problem loading games when he has clearly pressed runs top to break out of the game
Lie 2 he says that the game has crashed during loading and makes out it is a common fault when there is no evidence of a crash and load errors are rare
Lie 3 buggy boy takes about 4 mins to load not 10

I also find his presentation to the kids lacking. There is another video on YouTube of someone introducing his kids to a c64 and he does a much better job
 

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Re: This annoys me
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 07:06:12 AM »
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I'd say he's mostly right.
tape loading has always been very long (except with some turbo loaders) and errors were common (for people using pirated tapes, also azimuth..).



Even if you were right (which your not) the point is he didn't have any loading issues and the game he loaded doesn't take 10 mins. It seems that he wanted to make out the loading issues were fact so just pretended they happened.

It would have been much better if someone really passionate about c64s gave the demonstration and showed some really interesting games from the old days.

The only thing I found interesting was the lack of knowledge and difficulty using a joystick. It's amazing how kids can use controllers with  about 12 buttons roads and 2 analog sticks but now a stick with 8 directions and 1 fire button
 

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Re: This annoys me
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 07:35:36 PM »
To those who say 'who cares' and 'make your own video' you are missing the point. This wasn't just a YouTube video it was a news story on the BBC news.
As a news story it should be accurate and well researched.  Instead it's some guy who clearly doesn't know what he is doing andit uses uuntruthsfor comedy value.

For those that suffered failed loads, then maybe you should have taken better care of your dattasette unit. I still play my c64 and I don't get any load problems.

Those that say games take 10 mins or more to load, the average load time is 4 mins not including multi load levels.

I know everyone has there own memories of the c64 and I know that some people won't change there mind, but my main anger is based on bad journalism.
 

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Re: This annoys me
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 10:24:24 PM »
What games and what game pack or did you just make that up.

The ocean loaders are between 3 to 3min 30 seconds long. Takes about 30 seconds for them to start and 30 seconds from them finishing for the game to start. So these give some indication of how long games take to load.

Also remember I'm saying average load times. There may be a small number of games with long load times but most companies used fast loaders.

Plus my initial complaint about the 10 minute load time in the video is that buggy boy doesn't even take 5 mins to load never mind 10
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