Weird issue with Amiga 600

[AmiDude]

I wish you well with your illness...

[AmiDude]

Did you forget to take your medicine?

[AmiDude]

Oh boy, he completely lost it now.:insane: Hush hush, everything is gonna be all right.
Time for you to go to bed now.

[AmiDude]

I'm not continuing a intelectual conversation with you, because it leads to nothing.
Been there, done that.

[AmiDude]

My qualm is with the fact you cant seem to let it go.

You can't let it go neither, do you? You're just a bad loser!

This is my last attempt at diplomacy, either continue to carry on like a pork chop, or try your hand at behaving like an adult, your choice.

Said the childish person...

And for the rest of your b*lsh*t: Stop repeating yourself! You made an a*s of yourself allready.

[AmiDude]

fishy_fiz wrote:

Cant say Im surprised to see you responding this way though. When a person cant prove themselves, or if theyve been disproved and dont want to admit it they tend to behave this way. I tried my hand at diplomacy and extended an olive branch a few times, you showed everyone that youre not simply *acting* like a pork chop.

People who can't prove themselves also trie to "prove" they're right by reacting just like you do; A lot of empty words.

Your link proves nothing. They're all impressions from individuals. I want you to show me hard evidence. C'mon, do your homework better next time.

[AmiDude]

Well, heck's whistles. What am I going to read for entertainment, then?

Tone007 is right. We have to continue this argument for entertainment sake. :biglaugh:

[AmiDude]

Yes, hundreds of links from hundreds of individuals. Not one of them supporting your claims and all supporting mine.

That's because you're looking in the wrong places.

Flash RAM has next to zero seek time, its pretty common knowledge.

That's fine for the Flash-RAM. But overall speed of the 2.5" HD is faster. That's a wel known fact.

[AmiDude]

OK, read this link (there's more to come):
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/29795-20-hard-drive-compact-flash

This is about experiences from individual users.

[AmiDude]

Why dont you two provide REAL WORLD TESTS WITH YOUR REAL WORLD AMIGAS AND DRIVES. instead of blowing hot air around and insulting each other?

If you had read the whole thread, you could see that I allready provided information
about my 2.5" HD vs CF card tests:

Amidude wrote:

And Sandisk Ultra does NOT rule. I've got a genuine 4GB Sandisk Ultra CF which reaches a speed of 4.1MB p/s on my 1260 system. The Toshiba 40GB 2.5" HD reaches 5.2MB p/s!!!
(I also tested various other CF's and HD's, and the result was always in favour of the 2.5" HD's.)

Keep in mind that these high results were reached with an IdeFix-adapter and a 80Mhz 060 CPU. I alse tested CF's and HD's with my A600/030/42Mhz. Never were the CF's faster than the HD's. And I'm talking about 2GB+ drives.
It can well be that in modern PC's CF's are faster, but certainly not in the Amiga world.
I'm not buying that.
I've experience with both CF and HD's for many years. It's fishy_fiz that didn't do proper testing. He bought a CF card just one month ago...

[AmiDude]

I'm at risk of being on-topic here, but....

You're right, whe're way off-topic. We should open a different thread about this.

[AmiDude]

Compact flash doesn't need to spin up, so is available quicker and doesn't make any noise. It also seeks faster. The transfer rate on hard drives is higher. On a 68000 based Amiga using PIO, it's unlikely to make any difference at all.

That's what I'm talking about. It's the Read/Write speeds that makes the overall usage of HD's faster. It's also confirmed by different benchmark programs. The "noise" of an 2.5" HD is hardly noticeable.

[AmiDude]

You're using IDEFIX!
2.1MB / Sec is about the max you'll get out of the standard A1200 IDE.

If you had read all posts, then you've had noticed that I also did tests WITHOUT IDE-Fix!
Besides that, both HD and CF had benefit from the faster IDE-Fix adapter. So, it doesn't make any difference.
And 2.1MB isn't the max I get out of the standard A1200 IDE port. My other A1200 with Blizzard1230IV (WITHOUT IDE-Fix) and 2GB HD reaches a speed of 2.8MB p/s. Heck, even my A600/030 with 1GB HD reaches 2,6MB p/s!
I think it all comes down on what type/brand HD/CF and (important) CPU you use.

[AmiDude]

I don't want to get involved in any arguments, but I suspect that due to faster seek times on CF drives then they would be faster when used on a heavily fragmented partition, whereas a hard drive would suffer more in this situation due to lower seek times. Of course, large hard disks or ones that have been defragged and optimised will perform just fine.
Amiga's don't really have problems with fragmentation, at least not on the grand scale as Windows does (just speaking from my own experience here).

That's true. Well spoken.