Mozilla on Amiga

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frankb wrote:

From what I have can tell, the way they were able to port it was with the help of X11 for MacOS X, which is fully integrated into Aqua, and uses Quartz for rendering, so any X11 app can now use the Aqua interface.

X11 is not built into Aqua, it is a sepeate download (Apple are beta testing thier own version now)  Safari does not require X11 (I'm running it now - not bad).

I've heard that kHTML would make a good port, but no-one has ever tried to port it, unlike Mozzilla or OOO which are quite clearly bad ideas that have had sevral aborted attempts.

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frankb wrote:

This is true. It was just announced and released at MWSF. I thought they used it to port Konquerer. Are you sure a verison isn't included with Safari?

Safari is only a 2.5MB download, and also doesn't act like an X11 program (X11 runs with the task on the dock and has control over the menu, while the applictions own menus are in the windows themselves, like XWindows and Windows programs)  See the screenshot on the X11beta downloadpage on apple.com to see what I mean.

I'm actually quite impressed with it, it works quite nicely and is very fast and compact (and has a pop-up killer).  The only thing I don't like is that it is styled like an "iApp" with the brushed metal and ugly buttons.

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JamesR wrote:
I was the one who started the mozamiga.mozdev.org thingy - I mistakenly thought that I could rally some Amiga coders to get together and bang out a DE port. At the time, Amiga OS 4 really wasn't even heard of. Now, I'd recommend an OS 4 native port of Chimera, because Amiga Inc. has changed their tune. I suppose I could update mozdev to this effect, but it just seems that no Amiga coders give enough of a rat's ass to actually spend some time on this project.

If anyone wants to take over the mozdev thing, let me know. I'm not a coder, and it would probably help if the project owner was an active coder.

There is currently a big discussion about porting Mozilla over on the Amiga-C list on yahoogroups
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/amiga-c If you want I can post on there about this (your site has been reffered too already)

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Tomas wrote:
Yes mozilla is a little heavier than opera... But it start up quite fast if you put it in memory"a sec or 2", thats also only reason why IE starts up fast btw... Cause its allready lying in memory.

IE starts quicker than Mozilla on the Mac so it isn't just the "built into the OS" advantage.  It's probably more due to all the (unecessary) stuff built into it. I haven't tried the browser-only version yet but I imagine that would be a fair bit quicker.