kolla wrote:
the_leander wrote:
We have such a strong sense of independance because scumbags from all over Europe have, time and again tried to take that away from us. The reason we, for the most part do not like being refered to as "Europeans", is because we have faught so bitterly hard to stop Europe from dominating us.
Those who have tried to take away your independance have mostly succeeded (romans, vikings, anglians, saxons, normans).
Bravo - picking a bunch of examples, the most recent of which is approaching 1000 years old. Point out any other European that can claim anywhere near that. Norway certainly can't.
The point is, with nearly a millennium of independence, and a number of tough years where we were effectively isolated and alone about 70 years ago, it's not hard to see why we are not really of the 'European' mindset.
It's nothing to do with any self-superiority - every nation has a small element of that. If you were really the expert on Britain you claim to be you'd know how much time and energy we spend on complaining about how much we suck.
Is it really so hard to comprehend that we simply don't see ourselves that way, because that's not part of who we are? We're not the only country that thinks that an EU superstate is a bad idea are we? ;-)
Besides, treating us like a bunch of retarded lepers is hardly the the most persuasive way of handling things now is it? That just makes people want to tell you to shove your European brotherhood up your condesending arse. And that's never a nice way for conversations to go. :lol:
