Hyperion pre-announces OS4.1

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takemehomegrandma wrote:

Matt_H wrote:
I wouldn't really call that a "pre-announcement" ... Funny that it comes hot on the heels of MorphOS2 and adds similar functionality. Brings back memories of Microsoft's announcement of the imminent release (which of course slipped) of MS-DOS version-something in order to cut sales of competitor DR-DOS.

That's *exactly my point* with "pre-announcement"! :-)

I'm *not* doubting they will release the 4.1, but in the announcement they doesn't even specify a release date, and it feels like an announcement of an announcement of a release that they made only to say "OS4 will also have MorphOS features, and quite soon as well", and as you say the timing is kind of interesting. All in all the situation is not like the "4.1 is OUT" thread I saw over at AW.net. ;-)

I think you really need to grow up.

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bloodline wrote:

Maybe he does, but he also has a point...

The "pre-announcement" addition to the title was a childish fanboy moment, that had no other purpose than to cause friction. Such behaviour deserves to be left in the past.  His justification that there is no firm release date other than "mid-Q3/2008" is laughable when MorphOS 2.0 recently hit it's "Q2/2008"

Hello Pot, meet Kettle.

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Matt_H wrote:
@ uncharted

Relax, it's just a little fun with words. We've got to learn to laugh at ourselves as a community after all nonsense over the years.

There was nothing "fun" about it.  It was a snide comment, reminiscent of the bad old days and totally unnecessary.

I was hoping after the general good behaviour around the MOS2.0 announcement  that we'd maybe turned a corner.  However it seems there are some who still want to hold on to the old blue/red crap.

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But FFS, you are blowing this way out of proportions. Besides, FACTS are:

1. OS 4.1 isn't available today despite this announcement.

announcement
noun
a public and typically formal statement about a fact, occurrence, or intention

(Oxford American Dictionaries - emphasis mine)

2. Its release date is not even known. Both availability and price are to be made public in a *later* announcement, possibly the real announcement announcing the product (and I quote from the announcement in question: "Details on pricing and availability will be forthcoming").

From the press release:

is scheduled for release mid-Q3/2008

There is the release date right there.  If you don't except that as a valid date because it is not precise enough then you are being hypocritical considering a certain recent event.

Availability != release date.  There are other aspects of availability such as where a product is available from, and how to obtain it.  Release date is only a portion of this and has already been covered.

3. So there will obviously be a *new* announcement in a more or less close future saying "OS 4.1 is now released", but *this announcement was not it*! You can call it "a heads up" or or you can call it a "pre-announcement", but that's what it is!

No, you can call it an announcement, because that is what it is.  The irony that you've called it such in your "facts" seems to drive the point home.  There is no such thing as a "pre-announcement".  Where are all the articles proclaiming Apple "pre-announcing" Leopard or Microsoft "pre-announcing" Vista?  The only real fact is you added that to give a negative connotation to the title.  A very childish thing to do.

However, I'm sorry I've clogged up the thread with this.  Nothing more from me on the subject.

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takemehomegrandma wrote:

Indeed it would, and it would also bring good things to MorphOS as well! As far as we know, Amiga Inc are still considering MorphOS to be illegal (noncense of course). But if Hyperion would manage to get a court order proclaiming that they have the full rights to OS4, despite the obvious ties to Amiga Inc IP, then this will work as a precedent to the MorphOS situation as well, since no ties whatsoever exists between MorphOS and Amiga Inc IP. If OS4 goes safe from future legal {bleep}, then MorphOS will go safe even more! :-)

Depends on how they claim it is illegal.  If they claim that it contains stolen 3.1 code for example, then any previous legal result against Hyperion simply wouldn't matter.  The MorphOS Team could still find themselves having to go to court and going through the tedious process of proving themselves innocent.