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Re: OS4 Beta copy
« on: February 19, 2003, 07:48:15 PM »
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Indoro wrote:

The main problem here is that thus far AmigaOS4 is a lot of Alpha stage code, with very little Beta, and no Gamma what-so-ever. The only Beta software is probably the Kernel and the filesystem. (The filesystem is probably the only part approaching Gamma stages.)

Come on people...they announced it was almost ready how many times now, and still can't do a bloody demo of it anywhere...and no, showing the Kernel loading is not a demo of the OS..it is a demo of the Kernel, which the user should never have to see.

This is simply depressing.

//RC//


How do you know what status the code is?

Where are those PPC systems you were selling to George Lucas again  :-?

I don't think that you're in any position to comment on any company.
 

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Re: OS4 Beta copy
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2003, 09:27:21 PM »
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Indoro wrote:
Rubbish!

Show me where I ever mentioned George Lucas or anything to do with him. Where did that come from off the side lines?


Amigactive Issue 23, page 37.

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In regards to OS4: I have had conversations regarding what the status was a few months ago, and that didn't impress me at all. My sources are my own, and none of your business.


i.e. you have no source

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There is no apparent progress on this product from 6 months ago, nor from one year ago or better. AmigaOne is more late than anything we have announced,


That's strange as Hyperion have only been working on it for a year, and some of the progress made has been publically shown.  As for the AmigaOne, I know several people who have one in thier possesion now.  How many people own dual G4 Tsunami boards?

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In the meanwhile, I bid you a temporary farewell as I go to take care of more important matters than whether or not OS 4 is in true Beta or not.


What you're finally going to pay Dave?
 

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Re: OS4 Beta copy
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2003, 10:20:10 PM »
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Lando wrote:
This is all very interesting.

Ami603 says he is running a Beta of OS4 as his main Operating System.


He may mean OS 4 conponents rather than the full caboodle.

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Judging by his name I am assuming he has a BlizzardPPC (603e)? So this suggests that OS4 is up and running on Classic Amigas with Blizzard cards!  And it also suggests that the integration of the 68k emulator (Petunia) is also complete!

Maybe all that is left to do is removing any remaining chipset dependencies (if there are any left) and OS4 will be running in it's entirity on AmigaOne also!

Very good news, I'm sure everyone will agree :).


Erm I'd say that was a rather big jump you made to get to that conclusion.  :-o What you describe is a second best case scenario. (The best would be if he is running it on a dual G4  AmigaOne with full Altivec support thoughout the OS :-D )
 

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Re: OS4 Beta copy
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2003, 10:23:46 PM »
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downix wrote:
@Lando

The thing is, the Petunia webpage disagrees with the statement that the 68k emulator is done.  What he might be running, however, is in mixed mode, PPC on the PPC chip, 68k on the 68k chip.  Just a thought.  But it's still not a real beta.


But as long as it isn't MOS it can't be good. Right?

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Re: OS4 Beta copy
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2003, 09:47:16 PM »
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Indoro wrote:
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uncharted wrote:
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Indoro wrote:
Rubbish!

Show me where I ever mentioned George Lucas or anything to do with him. Where did that come from off the side lines?


Amigactive Issue 23, page 37.



No..IIRC it said "We are expecting that our systems will be highly accepted by companies like Spielberg Studios and possible Lucasfilm Ltd. Show me where I made reference to personal dealings with George Lucas, anywhere, ever.


I never said you personally delt with him, if you want to be pedantic about it, change "George Lucas" to ILM.  My point is you were critising a company that is actually producing something, when all you have done in the past is spout bullshit about your own companies products (no of which have ever existed except in press releases).
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No, I have a source with a judicial gag order on him at the moment. Wait a few weeks. Hyperion might have made progress recently, but nothing is apparent on the surface.


How conveinient.

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The Tsunami uses the Pegasos board, and it always has. As soon as dual G4 boards are available, they will ship.


So where are the single processor models that were also announced?  And while we're at it where is the CLeo, Apocalype ST, Leopard, Hurricane, Radian, and set-top box also announced???

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What you're finally going to pay Dave?

==snip rant on dave Haynie===



I'd love to believe you Doctor, but I can't.  Sorry what are you a Doctor of again? Where did you say you graduated from? Nuff said :-D

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This is the same man that one year ago thought we should dump the Amiga market alltogether to focus on Linux. He's a friend to none of you..this is all a personal vwngence cruisade against us, just like he made on Met@Box and CBM. Maybe you should seek the other side of the story from other employeers that he has had. Apparently everybody is out to get Dave. Ever stop to think that he isn't much of a Saint himself?


Dumping the Amiga market in Linux is a sound business decision.  Certainly in the current climbate, with the market the way it is I wouldn't blame any company for bailing out.

I suppose Dave just made up all those other disgruntled CBM employees as well.  

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I don't know why this has become a topic here. If he had a legal case against us, it would have been filed long ago. He doesn't. Period. I'm sorry we ever hired him.

//RC//


Surely on the same token had you a case against Dave it'd be filed long ago.