Amiga osX

[olegil]

@MarkTime:

They can't give themselves a license for an AmigaONE, for example.

Sorry, wrong.

The whole point is that the EULA is not concidered a contract in Norway. You buy a product, and guess what? You can choose how to use this, because you NEVER AGREED TO FOLLOW THE EULA WHEN PURCHASING THE PRODUCT.

So I can buy OSx and use it on my AmigaOne, and there's NOTHING anyone can say about it. Why? Because I never put my name on any paper saying I will obey the EULA. The ONLY thing that prevents you running OSX on MOL is the EULA, and if the EULA is invalid, why would I have to invent new clauses? It's invalid, therefore there is nothing preventing you from using it.

Please try and wrap your head around the idea that some countries have a bit more freedom than others.

[olegil]

But are you buyinjg the right to use it only on every second sunday each month and with the need to sacrifice a goat to stop it from crashing, or do you buy the right to use it (period).

Because the EULA is given to the customer AFTER he has paid for the product, it cannot be enforced. There is NO LEGAL documents you need to sign in order to receive your copy, so why should you be afraid of using MacOSX on non-apple hardware? As has been said repeatedly in this thread, emulation has been deemed within the "fair use" clause of piracy laws (you're buying two products and putting them together for personal use, no more, no less). MOL is an emulation layer. I don't see the problem.

Of course, OSX is a non-case for me, as I never had any interest in MacOS. I've sold my soul to Debian, I'm afraid... Beats selling it to Santa, though.

[olegil]

Using it on multiple machines is obviously not covered by "fair use".

[olegil]

Good one, Kolbjørn.

I would like to state once and for all that I have SERIOUS doubts that Apple could take anyone to court for GIVING them money and USING their software. Not without SEVERLY loosing face, anyway.

Emulation doesn't mean piracy, and not upholding an agreement you only got to see AFTER you paid does not equal illegal.

The thing that COULD bother Apple is that they are loosing money from the sale of Apple hardware. But come on, it's not like anyone in their right mind would buy both an AmigaOne/Pegasos and a new Mac, because only ONE of these solutions has HALF a chance of feeling right for an old Amigan, while BOTH solutions has the option to run the latest MacOS and applications. This could change if Hyperion and/or Genesi got a deal with the devil to port their OS to that other platform.

I think Apple would actually make money if I could buy their hardware and triple-boot it with Linux, OSX and OS4. Seriously, I think that would mean extra money for Apple.

But they insist on not wanting that, right?

The important thing is to not pirate (I wouldn't install OSX on more than one machine per license, for instance).

Btw: Check out the license for the excellent electronics design package Eagle which I use at work.

http://www.cadsoftusa.com/

They have a freeware version for hobbiest, a non-profit license for advanced hobbiests. Then there's the standard version and the professional version for business and home use, with single user (can install on 3 machines, just not use them at the same time), 3 & 5 user licences and a server license for those who are running thin clients. All in all, I think these guys have come up with a GREAT licensing. At work, we buy the single user licenses so we can install them on office PC, home PC and laptop and keep working wherever in the world we may be. If everyone was as flexible as these guys, the world would be a better place.