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Re: 1.3Gig Dual PPC A1XE
« on: April 28, 2003, 01:42:10 PM »
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mikeymike wrote:
I wonder whether it might be an idea if Eyetech were only to sell certain speeds of CPU in dual CPU module form, so something like:

modules for sale:

1x G4 800MHz
2x G4 800MHz
2x G4 1.3GHz
1x G4 1.8GHz
2x G4 2.2GHz
1x G4 2.6GHz

etc

Might work, but what would I know about chip sales :-)



Ehm, so far I've seen these speeds mentioned by Alan:
1x 800
2x800
1x1300

I would say that means Alan is _way_ ahead of you here.
Basically, since the different speeds of G4 means different chips with different pinouts (unlike for instance a P4, which usually stays the same for a bit longer) it doesn't make sense selling incremental speedups like you do with x86. Because you need a new CPU board for like every other speedup, it's much better to wait another month and skip a generation :-)

That's what I think, anyway. With a headache and just looking in at the forums while trying to do some work. I could be wrong, but I don't care :-)
 

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Re: 1.3Gig Dual PPC A1XE
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2003, 12:04:13 PM »
I think this is a case of "we're all right, but we're not talking about the same thing"

The Articia S isn't that bad on memory access. It's using SDR, after all. I've seen worse.

A G4 can't utilize DDR, because it's got a 133MHz FSB.
However, two G4 CPUs and an AGP card and a couple of PCI cards could very well manage to fill up the available bandwidth without much trouble. But you would surely need a DDR, AGP4x, PCI-X and dual CPU-capable northbridge. Where can you get that for PPC,  I hear you say. Well, we're kinda waiting for MAI to get the Articia P released, and it has all this. I was going to write that it's too bad Motorola doesn't support 166MHz bus, but it seems from an article about the 970 I just read that Macs are sold with 167MHz FSB, so I dropped that. If this is indeed correct, you could see an Amiga using single G3/G4 or dual G4 processorswith AGP4x, PCI-X and PC2700 memory. It all boils down to MAI getting some wheels in motion, I guess... Hopefully they've managed to get a lot of the fixes done to the Articia S into the P.

Now, where does the 970 fit in? It doesn't, I'm afraid. It uses two 900MHz 32bit front side busses (one for reads and one for writes), and this needs a rather special northbridge. I have yet to see anyone claim to support this yet. I wish IBM was more like Intel in this regard. New CPU -> New chipset released same time. At least IBM are going to base their own Blade servers on the 970, so they must support it. But you don't need AGP on a Blade (but DDR memory and PCI-X for GigE is crucial). I don't know if anyone will start using PCI-X for graphics. Could be a useable solution...