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Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« on: November 12, 2005, 11:03:04 AM »
Sorry if this is a stupid question :-)

I'm using an A1200 with a Blizzard 1240, Mediator and Voodoo 3000. I've got a hi-res wallpaper but it takes ages to load it. Also my icons take a long time to appear when I open a drawer. I have downloaded Exoticons for my WHDLoad installed games and they take even longer to load.

I'm guessing this is because I have a middle of the road processor, but I thought the Voodoo would help. Is there any way of improving the performance of Workbench with this setup?

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Mark
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2005, 11:46:18 AM »
Heh, I didn't spend £150 on a Mediator and Voodoo so I could have a monochrome backdrop  :lol:

I seem to remember this happening before when I had my A1200 with AteoBus+Pixel64 graphics card. The desire to have a beautiful wallpaper with amazing looking icons was soon replaced by a desire to have drawers that open in less than a minute  :roll:
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2005, 12:05:51 PM »
Blizzard 1240@33. Thinking of overclocking it to 40 but I'm scared :-) and would it make a significant difference to Workbench performance if I did this?
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2005, 12:19:21 PM »
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Updating the datatypes might help speedup backdrop rendering, especially with the warp datatype system for max speed as apposed to the junk that comes with os35/39.

I thought anything with "Warp" in the title was PPC only... I take it the Warp datatypes are optimised also for 68040 then?

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Unfortunalty mediator coupled with the equally slow p96 doesnt help matters.  cgxv4 would have been much better to support, but because p96 was easier for elbox to simply bundle at no cost to them, it got the drivers instead :/

No chance to get CGX working with a Mediator then, even if I buy it?

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icons / backdrops and just about everything was faster under cgx and bvision  Also ppc helps no end for speedy backdrop rendering if nothing else ;)

Would be great if I could afford a bvision  :-(

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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2005, 01:04:02 PM »
Is the speed increase significant with WarpDT?
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2005, 03:15:55 PM »
Doesn't "C:Wbctrl IMT=ICONFAST" make the icons load in fast ram? I thought you could do that anyway in 3.9?
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2005, 02:40:11 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have converted my 24bit JPEG background to a 24bit IFF. This matches the colour depth of my Workbench. It still seems to take a long time to load though.

I put WBCtrl in my startup-sequence and icons to seem to load a bit faster. Exoticons still take forever to load. Would making the icons a bit smaller help?

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Mark
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2005, 04:07:44 PM »
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Are you sure your workbench is 24 bit deep? Most cards use 32-bits as the alignment allows for faster rendering.

According to ScreenMode Prefs it is set to "Voodoo: 1024x768 24bit BGR" and the slider is set to 16M colours (but is greyed out and thus not adjustable).

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Have you set in PVS(?)

Plane2Fast

What are they?

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and in Prefs:Workbench Images to Other Memory (or so)

Yes I have done that.
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2005, 06:56:46 PM »
@Framiga
I definitely have P96 installed.

@Karlos
I don't really understand what that means. Should it be using 24bit or 32bit? And should the BGRA bit be there or not?
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2005, 08:11:22 PM »
Ok, I still don't understand fully but it sounds like what I am after is the 32bit BGRA screenmode?

I went in to P96Mode and changed the TrueColour depth from TrueColour to TrueColour & Alpha (what I presume is the A in BGRA?). Rebooted and the "Voodoo: 1024x768 32bit BGRA" screenmode had appeared. Selected this screenmode and tested it, it displayed fine. Saved the screenmode and rebooted for good measure.

The backdrop does seem to load a bit more quickly (I have also made some other changes like converting to IFF etc), but large icons like Exoticons still take a long time to load. Would scaling them down make any difference?
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Re: Speed of icons and background loading on gfx card
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2005, 08:57:58 PM »
Cool, thanks for your help. I don't care about memory, I've got loads. I just want it to be fast  ;-)

What software can I use to scale the icons? I tried Iconian but it just locks when I try to save the icon  :-(
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX