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Offline Oliver

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Hi, I use WinUAE,, so what I tell you may not be completely appropriate for your case.  You mentioned DF0: before.  I'm not sure if you are aware that DF0: is the name given to 'floppy drive number zero', in Amiga OS's.  In UAE there are also DF1:, DF2:, DF3: available.  You may also see DH0: etc for hard drives.  In order to put an .adf file, which is an image of an Amiga floppy disk, into a virtual disk drive, I use a WinUAE properties GUI.  This is a program started from the windows environment, to set-up WinUAE configurations, and start the emulation.  I guess you will have something equivalent with the Hi-Toro interface.  If you want to setup Workbench, you will have to tell UAE to have that .adf file loaded in DF0: (can't remember the exact procedure to install).  Also, I think you will have to use the same interface to tell UAE where to find the .rom files.  You can also make all your choices about which hardware to emulate here.  After making choices, I think you should be able to save them in a configuration file which can be loaded later for subsequent use.

edit- It shouldn't matter exactly where the .adf files are stored, so long as you specify the location of the particular images you want to be put into your virtual drives.  If it's disk number one, or a single disk, UAE will probably want it to be in DF0:.

If you want to run older games, without workbench, you may be best served using something like an Amiga 500, with 1.3 roms.

Hope that helps.  Not sure how similar your version is to the WinUAE which I run.  Good luck.

Oli
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A lot of old amiga games would run without workbench at all.  On a real miggy, one would put disk one into DF0:, turn on the machine, and the game would load.  Some games allowed the use of multiple floppy drives, but others didn't.  For those games that didn't support multiple drives, you will have to 'swap the disks' while the game is running.  On a real amiga, the game would give a message like 'insert game disk 2 in DF0:'.  To do this in UAE, one needs to tell the emulator to use a different .adf file.  In WinUAE, one can press F12, and a gui, like Hi-Toro will appear, and one can tell UAE to use a different .adf file.  You may get away with putting disks in each drive; just have a try.  You will need to specify a ROM location, but will not need a Workbench disk when running a game this way.  I think the original Lemmings, at least, would run from floppy like this.  Some games will require a Workbench already installed, and then the game will be installed and run from the Amiga hard drive.  A great many games will run without Workbench, though.  Also worth noting, is to make sure you have chosen an appropriate hardware configuration for the particular game you want to play.  Do you know a little bit about the chip sets, and processors?  If you can choose options to emulate an Amiga 500, I think it should be good to start playing a large number of games.  There may be some pre-defined configurations available through Hi-Torro, given as something like 'Quick Start' configurations.  There is also some configuration information available online, from Amiga games webpages.

I'm not sure about the use of a .ahi file.  Try without using one, and see what happens.  I've never used one before.  I presume it's something to allow 16 bit audio.  Shouldn't be necessary for games.
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You only need to use the Workbench .adf file when first installing the workbench under UAE.  I think WinUAE will be a lot easier for you.  I think the installer works well, and I think the documentation is fine (at least I can't remember any major problems).  You would need to install and use Workbench if you want to use (Amiga) hard drive installed games.  Once everything is installed, it's more convenient than swapping .adf files in the UAE requester.

Here are some links to configured Workbench set-ups with most of the handy utilz etc:
AmigaSYS
Amig In A Box (AIAB)
ClassicWorkbench
AmiKit

Check out the link to the old website on the AIAB page.  I think there is some help on setting up WinUAE there as well.

Of the above, AmiKit is the most recent, and has received good reviews from users here.

Have fun.

edit- Never used Hi-Toro, but it looks similar to the WinUAE interface.  I believe WinUAE is still a more developed program though.

HD should be 880K High Density (floppy), and DD should be 1760K Double Density.

To get games running, I suggest you first try just using floppy based games on WinUAE.  This should get you started easily enough.  Then once you've had some fun, you can take a look at some tutorials for installing Workbench (try the AIAB site).  I think there are some others around too.  I don't think it should be too tricky.  I think you just need to re-familiarize yourself with the old hardware.  You can also look around the net for info on the Amiga architecture, which will help you to design your UAE configurations.  However, just try to use some pre-made configurations to start with.

edit edit- Sorry, I mixed up the sizes for the HD and DD floppies.  They should be the other way around.  Also, you probably only need to use the DD option (880K).
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