3G iPhone

[smithy]

I don't see what all the fuss is about.  It's a phone with a web browser.  And it's locked down tighter than Fort Knox so Apple can control YOUR phone.  That was never the spirit of Amiga.

[smithy]

bloodline wrote:

smithy wrote:
I don't see what all the fuss is about.  It's a phone with a web browser.  And it's locked down tighter than Fort Knox so Apple can control YOUR phone.  That was never the spirit of Amiga.

I never said the iPhone was the spirit of Amiga, the two devices existed in very different markets and computing environments. The Amiga was an entertainment and hobby device... If I had to rely on my Amiga as much as I do on the iPhone... I would want it to be locked down just as tight! The iPhone is not a hobby device, I can't really afford to mess around and have it fail on me.

So you're saying it's the "21st century Amiga" and "the new Amiga", but at the same time it doesn't have the spirit of the Amiga?   :-?

I don't see how it bears any resemblence to the Amiga.  It's a fashion label that has a commodity mobile phone with a web browser underneath it that you pay a premium for because of the fashion label.

[smithy]

bloodline wrote:

Come on, I know you and you are not stupid, so don't act stupid just to prove your point!

I was referring to the market fit that the Amiga and the iPhone have.

The Amiga brought together a collection of  technologies and integrated them into a single package in a way that was right for the market.

Yes, the Amiga brought together technologies that had previously only been seen on high-end workstations, added a lot of its own technology to the mix, and entered a market with no real comparative competitor for years to come.

The iPhone does none of these three things.

At launch there were already half a dozen phones on the market that do the same thing.  It has no technological advantage over its equivalents from Sony Ericsson and the like.

The iPhone has done the same... Had Commodore been as good at marketing as Apple are... the Amiga might have been here now.

Indeed, as you rightly point out, the hype around the iPhone is due to marketing, not technology.  Technofashion has driven the iPhone's sales, not technology.  That's the polar opposite to Amiga.

[smithy]

Karlos wrote:
Smithy?

Blimey, another old timer!

Old?  30 is the new 20 ;-)

[smithy]

quarkx wrote:
APPLE to their credit has a incredible marketing department. and if they launch (or re launch) the newton, it will sell just as many units as the I phones because the MAC heads have to have it.
At the end of the day, it is just a regular piece of technology.simple. This argument is starting to sound like a bunch of crack addicts justifying their addictions.

Partly true, but Apple's recent success is not thanks to the Macheads.  Remember, back in the 90s, Apple was going down the toilet.

They brought Jobs back who packaged up all new Apples in funky & cool looking cases and packaging and managed to create a fashion icon with the Apple brand.  Nowadays, you still have the Macheads, but there is another layer of loyal Apple fanboys (as opposed to Mac fanboys - and dare I say, we've witnessed some of them in this thread ;-) ) who drool over such things as the IPhone and its entirely useless brother the phoneless-iphone that is the iTouch.

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If I was a Machead, by the way, I'd be most displeased.  Every new MacCon event (or whatever they're called) they unveil some new Apple gadget rather than something exciting like a new Mac external drive, doubly gaulling that it's a MAC event not an Apple event(!).  It does seem that the focus is being taken away from the Mac.

[smithy]

I saw an Iphone ad on TV today.  "What's so good about 3G?", it said.

Welcome to 2006, Apple.