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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« on: November 21, 2004, 06:33:58 PM »
I don't see what the problem is here.  Britain is basically a slave state, to the powers of globalisation (Blair's friends in industry) and the EU.

There are few satisfying jobs, people are working longer than ever, people are taking longer to get to work because of the rubbish transportation system.. what does the government expect?  Enterprise is discouraged, the politically correct nanny government has instilled the belief into everyone that they can do anything without working for it (well done for pointing this out Prince Charles).  In fact, you have to work hard for things - but this doesn't sit well with the socialist government's idea of equality of attainment instead of equality of opportunity, so we all suffer - we're all at the lowest common demoninator.

Setting up a business is impossible now - if you're half-successful you'll get sued out of your ass by Blair's friends in big companies.

It's no wonder we're turning to drink - there's nothing else to do.

 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2004, 10:36:56 PM »
@KennyR

Labour has been in power for 8 years and the transport system has only gotten worse.  They've meddled excessively with the train network, creating quangos, abolishing the same quangos a few years later, creating authorities, giving excessive amounts of money to train companies for poor services.   They've also created the "motorway for the elite" - toll motorways alongside regular motorways.  A shameful 2-class system if I ever saw one.  And one the Tories never tried in 2 decades and opposed when they Labour built them this year.

5 million employed (by the state) in unnecessary and token jobs - the public sector was riddled with wastage and bad management.  The socialists had spent so much money in the 70s that the country was bankrupt by the time Thatcher came to power.  The IMF refused more money without reform, there was no money to pay people in these unnecessary jobs.  There was no choice but to sell off some of the nationalised industries.

Then there was the Union Effect.  The militant unions destroyed British industry with excessive strike action.  Ship building in the north east was wrecked - why order ships from Newcastle when it would be over-budget and late because of industrial action.  People took their business abroad.  Same for steel, coal...

Instead of blaming the Tories for rectifying the situation, why don't you blame the socialists for creating it in the first place?!  The Tories didn't create 5 million unnecessary jobs paid for by the taxpayer.  This kind of wastage just isn't acceptable.

And "just to keep inflation down"?????  Sweet Jesus man!  Inflation KILLS economies.  And it was already at record levels before Thatcher re-introduced some sensible economic policy to the UK.  Inflation kills people's savings and it weakens the value of the currency.  In 1972, Sterling was worth $3.75!!!!!! (imagine that today!).  Even the incompetants who run the Eurozone have at last adopted the British economic model of low-inflation.

 

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Re: I thought it was just something in their water.
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 10:55:42 PM »
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OT: Just realised what that aristocratic leech Charlie Saxe-Coburg (a.k.a "His Majesty Prince of Wales") said. He said that "Britain's learning culture gave people hope beyond their capabilities".


That quote is out of context - he went on to say that the education system led people to believe they could succeed without work or talent.  That he believes everyone has a unique talent and people need to be helped to find it, and make the most of it.

The man is talking patent common sense.  Why make some spotty 15-year old who has a voice like Swiss cheese believe they can be a pop star.  You're just setting them up for disappointment.  Simon Cowell believes the same thing too.  Why produce false hopes in people without a natural ability for something?  Just tell them the truth.  Molly-cuddling our young people in schools doesn't prepare them for the real world, which certainly isn't like that.

But anyway.  I believe his comments are based on the lowering of GCSE and A Level standards.  Where everybody who sits one automatically gets one, where there are so many grade As and A*s that it's impossible to distinguish those who demonstrate excellence and those who are average.

This is bad for our country, and bad for the people we are going to be the future adults of this country.

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You really don't believe in that elitist claptrap, do you smithy? Charlie doesn't have the right to tell ANYONE they're trying to get by without working, he lives totally off taxpayer's money and costs a lot more than any of us would!


It's not elitist, it's common sense.  Everybody has a natural talent, and they need to be encouraged to find it and develop it.  Convincing someone who can't catch a ball that they're going to be a world-class cricketer is clearly not helpful to anyone.

As Prince Charles says:
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In my view it is just as great an achievement to be a plumber or a bricklayer as it is to be a lawyer or a doctor


Contrast that to Labour's approach of encouraging more people to go to university instead of such "dirty jobs".

I know what sounds elitist to me.