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« on: December 09, 2003, 08:10:35 AM »
M$ has a history of (re)releasing software with out any significant improvements to it (other than the version number.) :-P

Now I am reading about Longhorn and all that it is supposed to do and I think, "so what."  A 3D accelerated GUI?  A new file system?  What else is there?

I also see where Linux is starting to look and act more like Windows.  And open office (though nice to have a choice) is just as complicated to use as is Word.

This got me thinking.  What features could M$ add/remove from their software to make it truely innovated.  What could they do to their OS to make it different (in a good way) than all of the other versions of Windows.  How could they impove their GUI?  How could Word (or any other word processor) be made to be better?  Etc.

Actually, I guess this goes for all companies and software makers.

I guess I am looking for specific answers rather than, "make it stable!"  :-D
 

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Re: Innovation
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2003, 12:15:33 AM »
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Longhorn uses a database-driven filesystem...
The GUI won't be improved it will be re-written, i.e. more eye-candy but less demanding.


Interesting topic... Some weeks ago, on the AROS mailing list we were disscusing Fle systems, and the idea of a Database file system came up... What do people here think of them?


I guess a database file system would be nice if they were implemented right.  I think that performance would take a big hit.  Of course, I'm not sure how filesystems are used to store data on a hard drive so I guess my answer is pure speculation.  Anyone care to clarify this for me?:-D This might also answer my question why it isn't possible for someone to write an app in Windows to read other files systems (do they have these?)

Also It seems I read somewhere that the new GUI in Longhorn was going to take advantage of the latest in Direct X.  Is this a good thing? :-?  Are they going to be able to improve redraws or refreshes using Direct X or is the average user going to have to buy new hardware to run it.
 

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Re: Innovation
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2003, 12:18:55 AM »
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more eye-candy but less demanding.


Bill Gates keeps talking about freeedom to innovate.  How is eye-candy innovative?  What does a user really "need" from a GUI other than sparkles?  I think that is one of the many questions their GUI designers should be asking themselves.?

 

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Re: Innovation
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2003, 12:30:58 AM »
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Bill Gates keeps talking about freeedom to innovate. How is eye-candy innovative? What does a user really "need" from a GUI other than sparkles? I think that is one of the many questions their GUI designers should be asking themselves.?


The problem is, most Americans seem to love the Disney-XP-look :-(



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Re: Innovation
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2003, 03:49:04 AM »
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Microsoft is apparently trying to copy what's done in MacOS X. At first, there will probably only be eye candy features like animated effects and other garbage, but snapshot icons and zooming might be implemented. That's not a bad thing, but, as usual, it must be done properly.


I have to use OS X daily and when I first saw it I thought, "how pretty."  Now it seems all of the prettyness gets in the way.  The animating effects and such are getting annoying.  I think that my new design philosophy is now "Keep it Simple."  An OS has to be more than pretty pictures.  Besides, if people want the pretty pictures then I believe the OS should allow people to skin them according to their preferences.

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The dynamic Start Menu is certainly innovative. However, testing proves that people hate it, because they don't like it when things move around unexpectedly. It's annoying. A better way of doing it is to simply highlight the programs you use often. Hiding the ones you use infrequently is stupid.


Yes, plus it seems they change the way it works on every version of Windows.  A lot of there other software seems to have wandering features too.  That's why it is always a hassle to upward migrate with Microsoft products.

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Microsoft's interface experts are very strange. If this is what they are really doing, they probably read the first chapter of The Humane Interface, and didn't finish the book. Many interface experts call this the "ideal" way of handling data, but I really don't think it works.


Personally I think that there interface designers come up with what they seem is a cool or unique idea then overuse it.  Kinda like new Photoshop users who discover the lens flare filter for the first time.  After awhile they get sick of it and try something new and throw off everybody who got used to using their old products :-o

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That is simply not true, it is completly the other way.. XP has stolen a few features that KDE has had for years..


I am sure that it had gone both ways as far as feature stealing between Linux, M$, Apple and other OS's.  The simple matter of the fact IMHO is that KDE and Gnome are starting to look more and more like Windows with every release.  The Linux community has the rare opportunity to make something simple, useful and unique (Innovated if I may use that word again)  But they seem to jump on the Windows Look bandwagon and take an easy way out.  Again that is IMHO. :-)  It seems now that AOS 4.0 is in that unique position now.

Oh, I'm still curious as to how OS's implement file systems.  I really would like to know how this works. :-D