A post confirming stuff about MorphOS

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Interestingly, from Morphos.net:

"2004-11-24: a payment plan with a MorphOS 1.5 release date of 2005-01-31 was offered to Genesi who rejected it with empty threats"

and from the Genesi statement:

"Genesi will resume support of external MorphOS 1.5 development when there is a clear plan and a date set for the release."

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@BBRV
Wait, Didn't I read this on Ann and/or Moobunny? I believe I did. Redundant! You're just pissed and felt you had to strike back because Wayne said once again that he's pissed at you and why. It didn't stop him from posting this time, why would posting that again stop him in the future. Just accept it as fact as how he feel. Couldn't you have posted something new? Hey, How about the Consultant Empolyment Contract? Then we can see what the terms were so we know under what conditions payment for work is made. Though I doubt you do that. Might make you look bad.

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Okay, enough of that. Very Very Very off-topic. Where were we... Oh, yes. Talking about the  new Genesi press release on their website about the current Morphos situation and where all of this could go.

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True, Amiga, Inc. doesn't even enter into this. It's about Genesi, BBRV, the Morphos Dev Team, and the disgruntled Morphos Dev team members.

Lando,
Hey, I lost my $50 too. along with over 1000 others. So, sure be pissed at Amiga, Inc. I'm not looking there. I'm looking at Hyperion and Eyetech. That's neither here not there though.

As Morphos user you are looking at possibly never seeing version 1.5 or any package upgrade even if 1.5 gets distributed in some form. Not that Morphos will go away. Hey, Look at Classic Amiga OS. Still here and still being used (hacked and patched as it maybe on some systems).

Besides, It's kind of hard to have Red vs. Blue flamewars if there is not Blue.   :-o

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Wow. Why do I feel that the bottom just fell out of the bucket? So, what does that leave? That's what, Genesi USA and Bplan.

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Thendic-France was closed as part of Pretory. Which was why Genesi SARL was formed. Though why Genesi SARL is closing, who knows... Well, BBRV yeah.

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So what IRS catagory did Wayne fall in then?

Under the Table.

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by Karlos on 2004/11/27 18:25:25    Quote:    bbrv wrote:  Wayne, you screwed yourself.         He most certianly did; principally by agreeing to work for you, by the sounds of it.

By that measure, so have alot of talented and supportive people in this community.

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I'm really amazed that the Amiga Community has come this far with two companies like Genesi and Amiga, Inc. trying to run the show. I think it really proves just how user driven this movement is, even though those two have managed to go one way or the other to the point of internal fueding at times.

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An Independant Contractor is like its own company. So, an IC gets paid with no deductions. It is their responcibility to pay them. Your basically an employee of yourself hiring yourself out. So, you have to withhold from your own paid amount State Taxes, Federal Taxes, Unemployment Tax, Social Security Tax, etc.

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you know much better than me, the "military prone brain" of BB.

I was thinking more along the lines of a lack of business ethics. Even war has rules. Not to mention proper business practices. Does Mr. Buck have a business degree?

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by hnl_dk on 2004/11/26 1:30:32

Hope this is not just a plan to get rid of the missing payments (in an unmorally way).

I was thinking it, but wasn't going to say it.

It's called Corporate Restructuring to Better Manage Debt Load.

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From the Amiga History Archive:
http://amiga.emugaming.com/viscorp.html

From: Carl Sassenrath
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: From Carl Sassenrath
Date: 13 Nov 1996 19:50:02 GMT
Organization: Pacific Internet
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Dear Amigans,

Many of you have been wondering what's happening with VIScorp, the Amiga, and why my name is no longer on the vistv web site.

I hope this is not too long-winded for you, but here is a brief summary of my story:

I joined VIScorp about a year ago as a consultant to help them create new system software for the Amiga. I believed at that time that they had the ability to take the Amiga into several new, huge markets around the world. They made many promises to me in order to get me to join the project.
In March 1996 VIScorp informed me that they planned to buy Amiga Technologies. The reason was simple: for the vast quantities of Amigas that they planned, it was cheaper to buy AT then to pay the royalty. It seemed to me that this could work, if they could come up with the money.
Over the months that followed, I made numerous suggestions to VIScorp regarding what they needed to do to support and further improve the Amiga. I even proposed a business plan centered around the Amiga, as it seemed to me that you CAN have an ALTERNATE computer for people who don't want PCs. After all, what would our cars be like if only one company produced them? The Amiga offered us a choice.
VIScorp never responded to my suggestions. Not once. In fact, they kept me totally in the dark as to what they were doing and what progress had been made on the AT deal. I never knew from day to day what was going to happen next.
By August I was starting to tire of VIScorp and its unkept promises to all of us. They were 110 days behind in paying me, and I was very disappointed in the whole mess that they had brought on the Amiga community, developers and dealers, and myself. It had become clear to me that VIScorp was not competent. I took a couple weeks off and went to Florida.
In September I tried to recruit RJ Mical to join the team. I put a lot of energy into it, as RJ was skeptical of VIScorp. I finally succeeded! Then, VIScorp blew him off. RJ and I couldn't believe it. What were they doing?
Finally, I decided to focus 100% on what they had originally hired me for: to create a TV set-top Amiga. Perhaps if we could build a good demo, VIScorp could convince one of its investors to contribute extra cash. By the end of September, Don, Steve, Jim, and I had finished a dazzling prototype of such an STB. In my opinion, it really showed off what the Amiga could do as a STB. The software for it was entirely written by Jim and I, because VIScorp had not been paying any of the other contractors.
After delivering the prototype, I never heard a word back. VIScorp was again far behind in payments. What were they doing? What had gone wrong? What was next?
Whatever it was, I didn't want to be part of it any longer. I've never seen such an idiotic, screwed-up, incompetent company (and I am saying it mildly). VIScorp was worse than Commodore, and I never thought that was possible. I took my name off the web site, vowing not to be a part of this lunacy.
So what can I say? Please don't flame me for doing this. I refuse to be part of such a sloppy situation, regardless of my love for the Amiga. Over the last 10 months I have heard from many of you, and have sent nearly 1500 personal email replies to you. All I can say is that I am sorry that I could not do more for you and our Amiga Computer.

I am unsure what the future holds for the Amiga. Perhaps VIScorp or some other company will scrape together enough cash to make the AT purchase. We can only hope.

As for my future, I am going to return to what I do best: operating systems and languages. You have not heard the last from me. I can imagine a system much better than the Amiga.... now to create it. Truely, only time will tell.

Stay in touch my friends.

Sincerely yours,

Carl Sassenrath
Ex-VIScorp OS Guy
carl@sassenrath.com

Permission granted to copy and repost.

Sounds familar some how...