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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« on: September 04, 2002, 07:15:34 PM »
Seehund burbled, in response to jd997uk:
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I remember the "AmigaOne" and that press release very well. Eyetech will be selling Mai's hardware. And? What are you talking about? What's that got to do with this?

One might pose the same questions, with rather less lack of perception/bad faith, re your own remarks.

Remember that this is a limited-interest mobo for the moment, and IMO it is highly unlikely that any other dealer for Europe actually exists. So you'll still be buying from Eyetech.

Remember that the firmware, which basically enables the mobo to boot, and the Amiga ROM are not the same thing, neither conceptually nor physically. I suspect that when they talk about not necessarily using the same firmware as the A1, they mean that there may be a few differences in the code, eg default OS may be Linux rather than AOS.

Incidentally, I'm pretty sure it's the debugging etc work on the A1 which now enables MAI to market their board in this way. This is good news, since it has spread the costs of A1 development and should also reduce the final cost of the boards to users since more are expected to be sold.

And at "around $500", the Teron board is in the same price range as the AmigaOne anyway, based on the current GBP to USD exchange rate.

I do wish you'd think things through before kneejerking out this sort of emotive nonsense.
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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2002, 09:25:18 PM »
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the Pegasos has been proven to be
working (including MorphOS) and is allready in the Hand of
(few) users, something that never happened with the other two.

Kronos, you know that's untrue: there are users (betatesters, like the Pegasos) with AmigaOnes.

Me, for example. Ole-Egil, Justin... There are others, but they haven't publicly identified themselves, so I can't name them.

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I've also not seen Thendic collecting any pre-payments.

I seem to remember 50% being asked upfront at one point. OTOH, Eyetech didn't cash my cheque until my board was ready to ship.
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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2002, 12:31:23 AM »
A small selection out of a huge wodge of bovine excrement...
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WTF? Eyetech has nothing to do with any hardware development of neither this board nor the "evaluation" version (the "A1 developer version"). What Mai's customers, like Eyetech, do with software like the firmware has nothing to do with hardware design or Mai's marketing of their own products. Bill Mueller is the sole developer of the Teron CX / A1, and he is one of the two developers at Mai who do all motherboard designs and signal integrity development. He does not "know what or who we do our contracts with".

READ MY LIPS: FIRMWARE IS NOT HARDWARE. Why should a hardware specialist get mixed up with what firmware/OS is run on it? Why do you suddenly try to evade the issue? You assumed Amiga ROM and OF were the same thing once again.
Incidentally, you don't know (nor do I, and nor, I suspect does Mr Mueller) if the Teron mobo set to go on sale in a couple of months  isn't simply the AmigaOne.
 
You don't know what work has been done by the A1 developers over the past few months. Nor, clearly, does Bill Mueller, but he has the honesty to say "I don't know".

Sorry everybody. I forgot for a moment that Seehund never faces up to reality and admits he got things wrong, but will twist and turn, usually accusing the person who corrects him of making the mistake.
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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2002, 12:39:38 AM »
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Learn to read  

Ah yes. Sorry. Low blood-caffeine level.

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And yes Thendic asked for 50% from dealers but not endusers,

I knew I remembered seeing something like that. However, technically there are no endusers for the Pegasos/MOS combo, only betatesters.

Let's face it, it's just frustrating not having the 2 mobos on the open market complete with OS.
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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2002, 12:47:25 AM »
Couldn't resist this: talking nonsense verifiable by anyone who can click an URL...

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What, have you fallen for Eyetech's "$3900 myth" too? ;) Even the old "evaluation" boards were available for sale to the general public at "less than $300"

pricing for Teron CX
Careful readers will note that it is not specifically stated that the CPU chip is included in the price. :-D
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Re: Teron CX "consumer version" soon for sale
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2002, 01:30:38 AM »
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Evaluation-system (with support) : 3900 (1st) 2340 (2nd - 5th).

TeronCX-MK1 (not available anymore) ~300 (without CPU)

Dunno where the $300 one comes from. One of Seehund's inventions, I reckon. Or is he thinking of the first A1 dev board run? Anyway, I suppose it's par for the course for a guy who's just publicly stated that he reckons he knows as much about MAI's relationship with Hyperion as Hyperion do themselves. Obvious he's the only person on the planet who knows that Eyetech's prototype was an eval board without CPU or support (funny: the people who saw it the day it arrived in the UK all swear it booted just as if it had a CPU, and we on the dev list have seen support coming from MAI).

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TeronCX-MK2(A1) ~500 (including CPU).

Yup, that's how I read it too. I'd love to speculate about the price being slightly cheaper than planned for us Europeans, but that's all it would be: speculation. Maybe we'll know a bit more after the @lchimie show this weekend? You know, the one with both Eyetech and Thendic displaying their wares?
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