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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« on: December 28, 2010, 10:52:41 AM »
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yeah, our first PC was 1500 dollars, and was shite. A proper "gaming PC" was easily 2000 or more. This was very late 90's


I don't recall spending  $1500 for Intel Celeron-A (Mendocino) + LuckyTech P6ZX3 (Intel 440ZX) + NVIDIA TNT2 M64 in the late 90s.
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 11:05:54 AM »
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It always amazes me when people look at a 1200 with an 030 running Doom, and blame AGA for it being pokey, when the same game running on a PC needed a 486 to actually move at a decent clip.
 
Same deal for stuff like Wing Commander really. People ran it on their 486 with tons of RAM, and then complained that the amiga 500 ran it slow.
Really ?

Doom runs fine on 386DX33 with on-motherboard L2 cache and full 32bit bus.

Doom running on 386SX33 with 16bit bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vETjEH0Vo9I
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 11:12:24 AM »
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Ruff 'n Tumble runs awesome here on my OCS Amiga :)
As well as Lionheart, Elfmania, Jim Power and Fighting Spirit.
That's why AGA feels a bit like a let-down, the best looking Amiga games are all OCS original.
There's one very valid pro-aga point however, Doom needed a lot of megaherzes and megabytes, also on the pc (or a 3d accellerated chipset like on the Playstation and Atari Jaguar).
I remember that Doom didn't run smoothly on a friends' 486 66mhz with 4mb memory. Neither did it run smooth on my 486 33mhz with 8mb. It was all choppy and I have tweaked alot in my bios and config.sys/autoexec.bat to enable it to run that tiny bit faster (to a point that the whole system seriously crashed). I don't know whether it even ran at all on a 386.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Mq-CtYB3s
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Re: Am I the only one who doesn't hate AGA?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 12:13:21 PM »
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One of the things I learned in college was an important principle in scientific analysis - never make a false assumption.
I in no way hold the Amiga in low regard. I think it was one of the most creative, groundbreaking systems ever introduced, I just think that the development/evolution of the system was clearly botched.
AGA looks better, but its horrifiying to program and wasn't nearly enough of an improvement.

And I've answered your question, I don't hate AGA, I just wish that the next evolution in Amiga hardware had made the kind of drastic improvement the original Lorraine made (over every other computer).
Nope, don't hate it, just disappointed by it.

And again, your use of a Mac? Didn't you refer to them as 'crappy'? At least my Mac is running an Amiga compatible OS.

http://emumiga.com/
A project that makes AROS X86 runs 68K Amiga programs transparently.
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