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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« on: August 07, 2002, 07:07:13 PM »
I don’t think MorphOS camp has the financial muscle to match Gateway Inc...
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2002, 07:53:42 PM »
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But you should stop doing this.. Why cant Amiga go for the future, show that you are strong?
 I know this is a marked strategy to somewhat push MorphOS out. Its like Lindows for the PC marked. Its a competitor to Windows, but also RUN's Windows programs.

Win32 cloners wouldn’t worry being sue by MS, IF they clean code’s their OS.

Win32 cloners would be in trouble, IF they copied any MS code.  

“Lindows” naming battle is a different issue.

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You should start to think like an Amiga user Bill.
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This would be subjective assumption regarding to being an “Amiga user".

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Amiga INC. writes:
We are not afraid of it. Our only issue is that it is has been created using illegally derived material that belongs to Amiga. If they had clean room developed it, there would be no issue.

If you notice the earlier statements, Amiga Inc has no problems with "clean room developed" code.

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 If you have full believe in your work, then drop the case and go further.

Is that a good excuse for committing illegal acts (POV of Amiga Inc)?

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We all know you should have the right to use Amiga, but MorphOS aint using Amigas name. I want both products on the marked, it will be a colourfull marked
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A market that will result in Beta vs VHS  like war will not help the consumer in the long term.

Two path
1. AmigaOS 4.x path for long term view.
VS
2. MorphOS path for long term view.

Note that SUN doesn’t let any one deviate from their Java standard.   MS has paid a the price for thier recalcitrant actions.

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and thats what we want, not another Commodore
 

I don't think Commodore's deployment model equals MS's style deployment model
 i.e.
1. With CBM, 1 OS Company(i.e. CBM) = 1 hardware vendor(i.e. CBM). Apple also uses this deployment model.
2. With Amiga Inc,1 OS Company(i.e. AInc) = multiple hardware vendor, due Alnc's multi-licensing regime.

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keeping all secret and kinda forget what the userbase want.

This would be subjective assumption in regards to what user base wants.  

All companies has their trade secrets and know how. Companies invest in R&D to develop trade secrets and know how.

Being labelled a monopoly by Justice Department invokes a different sets of laws.

I wouldn’t be surprise if stupid US Justice Department and (the nine anti-MS US states) destroys their own US company’s dominance in the world market due to their narrow scope and pays the price for it.
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2002, 08:18:32 PM »
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It's OUR (the users) market, and NOT AInc, Eyetechs, Hyperion or bPlan's market !! They all can deliever products to OUR market, but the don't own us, and we can decide ourself what we buy.


Don’t you realise if there are two identical products that do same thing yet with enough differences, the market may end up like  OS/2Warp** vs Win95** (or Beta Max VS VHS) wars?

**The battle of succession for Win16 standard. Both has their own different 32bit API path.
 
The consumer will lose in the long run (for OS/2Warp users in that case).

Personally, I Iike SUN’s model in regards to controling thier standard and sharing their standard with others.
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2002, 08:39:11 PM »
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4. Reverse engineering a product to make a compatible one IS legal to some extent.

Where does it state this?

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2. Changing a program by 25% makes it eligible for a new copywrite... that doesn't refer to an individual subroutine but the work as a whole.

Depending on work's copyright conditions, “derive works” may be considered illegal by the copyright holder.

Just look in your Quake's license and copyright text file.
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2002, 08:42:43 PM »
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Gateway doesn't give a #### about Amiga.

Do we know their intent?

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They won't defend the name.

Do we know their intent?

Re-read my post carefully, I have not anything in regards to "defending".

Any inference made is due to your thinking...
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2002, 06:10:00 AM »
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The point is that WE decide, what we buy, and that is what

What you want may not reflect what the market wants.
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Re: Amitopia interview Amiga Inc regarding MorphOS
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2002, 06:16:20 AM »
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AFAIK is "right-mouse-pop-up-menu" the only AmigaOS-patent and that won't

I don’t think that would be the issue.

Note that MS's WinXP uses the right button for their "context sensitive" popup menu.
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