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Re: Apple to dump PPC for future Macs?
« on: July 23, 2002, 10:59:15 AM »
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I am afraid that when they move the MacOS to the x86 platform, it will run so bad that people will abandon it. Sort of the BeOS story.

Wound it?

MacOS can’t be associated with BeOS since it(BeOS) doesn’t have a good brand recognition or comparable “good will”.

BeOS’s GUI is not even comparable with MacOSX’s GUI.
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Re: Apple to dump PPC for future Macs?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2002, 11:11:41 AM »
@Valan

OS/2’s Win16 API (back in 1994/1995 era) didn’t give application programmers the incentive to port native software for the OS/2 platform.

Secondly, IBM didn’t complete with MS with bundling war.  

Thirdly, IBM did not compete with MS’s advertising bombardment.

Many things can be leant from ATI’s counter attack (against nVidia) i.e. “holding the line”, gaining opportunities, eliminating weaknesses and exploiting strengths.
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Re: Apple to dump PPC for future Macs?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2002, 11:15:46 AM »
@huronking.

In the dominance of 68k Series CPUs during 80s, other 68k based PCs didn't kill MacOS.
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Re: Apple to dump PPC for future Macs?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2002, 11:32:27 AM »
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They prolly used dual 333MHz FSB x86 mobos
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Intel chipsets doesn't run at "333Mhz DDR" for FSB, it runs ether at 533 mhz QDR (for late model 850) or 400 mhz QDR (for older intel 8xx chipsets).

AMD based chipsets runs either at 266 mhz DDR or 333 mhz DDR or 400 Mhz DDR for late model mobos.

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1. Intel 845E chip set.
It was quoted that 845E has 533 Mhz (QDR) between Pentium 4 processor and system bus (with DDR RAMs running at DDR 266).

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(the pricetags sure suggests so) pitted against single 166MHz FSB / 333MHz DDR PPC mobo. And the software was probably also non-altivec (G4). Or in other words: foul x86 propaganda at it's best...

Please provide proofs.

PS; Dell Precision 340 may have RDRAM/533QDR for that case.  I exceeded that price line when I selected following
1. Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor, 2.53GHz, 512K / 533 Front Side Bus (Northwood Core).
2. 256MB PC800 ECC RDRAM.
3. nVidia, Quadro2 EX™, 32MB, VGA (Dell Recommended)
4. 19 inch Dell (19.0 inch vis) 1900FP Flat Panel Monitor (Dell Recommended)
5. Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! Value,Windows 2000 or XP Operating System
6. harman/kardon 206 Speakers
7. 80GB ATA-100 IDE,

Price: ~$3,383.00 (with price reduction)

Does Apple PPC has DDR ram?
As Apple's web site suggest, DDR can only applied for L3 Cache NOT for main ram (only at 133 SDRAM).

In terms RAW mobo MHZ speed, Intel packs allot of it(due to 533 mhz QDR). AMD comes second with 400DDR/333DDR.
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Re: Apple to dump PPC for future Macs?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2002, 12:14:49 PM »
@Valan
What kind of x86 PCs? Are they Intel or AMD?

Depending on applications AMD has it’s strengths and Intel has it’s own strengths.
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