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Re: Imagine, how things could have been...
« on: June 04, 2003, 01:05:14 AM »
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It's no secret that From a technical stand point IBM's choice of the 8086 for their "brand new" Personal Computer back in the early 80's was a shock to almost everyone.

All other manuafactures were looking at the 68K as the CPU of choice, simply because it was a better chip. IBM, contract with intel to supply 8086s very cheaply, apparently had a heavy bearing on the CPU choice.

But, I wonder what would have happened if IBM had chosen the 68k....  :-o


Just some thoughts to get the ball rolling:

Motorola would not have had the ruthlessness of Intel, and desire to improved the Chip. Right now we would all be using 100Mhz 68040s...
IBM would not have gained such a strangle hold on the market as there were plenty of other, better machines avaiable which, with a little poking, were quite compatible... :-D

IBM would require a second supplier built into the contract e.g.. AMD would be given this contract.

A 2.2 Ghz 68K compatible CPU would be very nice product. I don't think Motorola has the ticker to complete with AMD, let alone Intel Corp.

One to deal with the IBM/Microsoft factor e.g. MS-DOS/OS-2Warp/Windows9X/NT/2K/XP for 'super 68k platforms'.
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Re: Imagine, how things could have been...
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2003, 01:30:38 AM »
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It appears Motorola were not fussy about who they gave licences to... so I don't expect there would have been the same sort of clone wars the Intel has had to face.
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Motorola on the other hand seen to have been happy to licence the technology, thus there would be more regulations on the technology, and less "push", I certainly don't think the PPC would have ssen the light of day...
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Note that, one has to factor in AMD co-founder's Jerry Sanders's drive to be number 1 CPU manufacture e.g. AMD would license 68K ISA from Motorola and rev up the Mhz (i.e. the first CPU manufacture to break the 1Ghz at volume production). They’ll probably throw in million of transistors to make this happen.

IBM is currently throwing million of transistors (~55 million) with their PPC 970, just like the real world X86.

Just look at AMD MIPS's Mhz speed, Intel StrongARM's Mhz speed and compared it to Motrola’s StrongARM's Mhz speed. AMD and Intel's aggressive corporate culture was also applied for these CPU families.  

Note that Intel was not against obtaining a license for alternative ISAs e.g. Strong-Arm.  

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The dominant chip now would be the Alpha...

Not with Alpha's cost. The old DEC doesn't have the focus for the average citizen.

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Re: Imagine, how things could have been...
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2003, 01:46:39 AM »
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Imagine how things would have been if IBM didnt add that perfect windows emulator to os/2.....

It wasn’t a classic emulator btw...

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Then win3.x would have had none developers...

It's the other way around since Windows 3.11 runs on top PC/MS-DOS. Running legacy software on early OS/2 is a hustle, unlike Windows 95.

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and probably windows wouldnt have had this monopoly today.

You are forgetting MS’s aggressive corporate culture.
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Re: Imagine, how things could have been...
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2003, 07:16:25 AM »
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If it was possible to cool an 060 with something like liquid-nitrogen,

Find a similar processor which has a similar die/masking processing technology as with 68060. LN2 has limits on how a CPU is over clocked. Other limits would be transistor-switching technologies.

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