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Re: IBM to Apple: Eat This, New PPC Chips!
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2005, 10:25:57 AM »
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But the PPC market, IMO, will potentially, grow due to Cell/PPC combo.  Granted, at face value, the PPC seems to be nothing more than a Co-Processor or controller for the Cell but the fact remains that PPC will still be manufactured and a future roadmap does still exist.  Unless I am mistaken (please feel free to jump in at this point) the Cell will perform beyond the Intel roadmap [as far as performance is concerned]

Not with Intel's own "Special Purpose HW Engine" (SIMD/DSP) co-processor array. Intel already has experience  a 16 core SoC with XDR infrastructure (e.g. Xscale based IXP2800).
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Re: IBM to Apple: Eat This, New PPC Chips!
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2005, 10:31:17 AM »
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The PPC/Cell specs were enough to make the mouths of consumers drool

Cell's POWER(PPE) core is nothing like PowerPC970 in terms of OOO processing.
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Re: IBM to Apple: Eat This, New PPC Chips!
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2005, 12:44:10 AM »
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They've traded clock speed for complexity, Cell should clock up to 4GHz without problems (it's held lower in the PS3 because they don't want it becoming too noisy).
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Cell is not the only processor design to aim for +3Ghz. Design is one thing while resulting yields in mass production is another.
 
If one notices, AMD’s process yield (week 16, 2005)A64 FX55(San Diego)@3.1Ghz*(via overclcoking) air cooled is very close to Cell’s 3.2Ghz end-user delivery. Similar week 16 fabrication, A64 X2 4800+has been over clocked to 2.8Ghz*.

*Successfully runs Windows and usual benchmarking suits.

Liquid cooling enables week 16 2005 A64s to run as high as 3.4Ghz*. Similar week 16 2005 yields, has been pushed beyond 4Ghz (only boots the BIOS screen). A64 over clocking has proven that OOO designs can be pushed toward 4Ghz. PIV already past 4Ghz via it’s double pump units (PS; Pentium M doesn’t have these designs).

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At 4GHz the PPE alone should kick a 2.7GHz 970's ass.

Invalid comparison since you did not compare the same processor design at Q1 2006 yields. 2.7Ghz 970FX is available today while PS3/Cell is currently MIA.
One has to remember that Cell's PPE is an in-order, two-issue superscalar Power core design.
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