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Re: Microsoft Bashing
« on: November 24, 2004, 08:39:23 PM »
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I am by no means a lover of their practices (nor their code). But i use it because it is a standard that is greatly in use. Fact is fact. I don't like the code being such bloated and full of security holes.  

What I really don't like is the world adopting their general coding style -- bloat-ware ..


I fully agree, I tried XP on my machine at the same time I upgraded to 2k (a requestor popped up after post asking which os I wanted which was pretty cool), but XP ran so much slower than necessary = bloatware - filled with unneeded cr@p code that if they had thought about it long and hard, ergo lowering profit margins, they could have made it much better.  It seems like M$ write the code with no streamlining in mind at all, as if thinking "hey, were microsoft - let the hardware catch up with us"

p.s. XP is a cartoon os  :-)

Select the Silver theme instead the toy theme.  Anyway, Windows XP MCE 2005 has Royale as its default theme.
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Re: Microsoft Bashing
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 08:58:00 PM »
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Microsoft Corp. may have the world-wide market cornered in the cutting edge of consumer and business automation applications. Some would say MS is a monopoly. Well, if that is the case then at least MS is an AMERICAN monopoly and anyone living in America should be at least thankful in that respect.

Microsoft’s dominance is nothing new i.e.  they have been doing it since yesteryears 8bit PCs via Microsoft BasicOS (crude OS for 8bit PCs). This includes Commodore PET/VIC-20/C64/C128/C-whatever, Apple II, MSX (Japan Inc) and 'etc'.
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Re: Microsoft Bashing
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 09:09:04 PM »
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What I really don't like is the world adopting their general coding style -- bloat-ware ..  
I mean really,   Compare  XP requirements and performance -- then look what you can do with Unix (and its variants) on lesser hardware.  

Both SUSE Linux 9.1 Pro and Windows XP Home/Pro desire comparable hardware performance.  You can't compare a cut down *inx to desktopOS i.e. one has to factor in Windows XP Embedded Edition or Windows CE5.0 with XP extensions (ability to XP applications on Windows CE 5.0).

Windows XP desktop runs fine IF you give it enough memory i.e. 256MB atleast.  

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Problem I see is that people forget the streamline approach in favor of upping the hardware. Again,  the problem comes that they are becoming the monolithic in their approach.  

Personally -- I think they are about ready to cut their own throat if what I read about longhorn is true ..  I think microsoft is going to be faced with a lot of non-corporate defections.   I used to say  Unix on a desktop  wouldn't fly,  but watching the problems people go thru with  nt/2k/xp  really makes Unix/linix look like a viable option.
(Aros on intel also  ;)   )

Note, both Windows and Linux are growing due to X86/X64 bandwagon.
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Re: Microsoft Bashing
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2004, 09:23:02 PM »
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I'm more ticked off at the functionality of Office rather than the monopolization. Creating documents in Word is an interface nightmare. I just use Wordpad if I need something more flashy than plain text. Word is overkill for most stuff, and I don't understand what anyone sees in Excel and PowerPoint.

Documentation automation and knowledgebase systems i.e. business rules customisation via VBA(an example). There’s an entire industry that builds on MS Office i.e. mostly in ISV MIS(managed information systems) business office sectors.
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