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Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« on: April 19, 2012, 04:44:05 PM »
Hi Amiga.org friends.

I have got a petition online to try and convince our friends Jens Schoenfeld from Individual Computers to release the rights on schematics and CPLD code of the Apollo boards. He is the legal owner of all this, but notoriously he doesn't want to release the datas nor offer any support for the boards.
It is just a shame to let an Apollo 1260 die because we are unable to reprogram a new Mach 131 for it.
With hundreds of requests through this petition, may be he will change his mind and save the future of Apollo boards.
Please sign it here before 5/31/2012: http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petition_give_apollo_boards_datas_to_the_amiga_community-11476.html
You are welcome even if you don't have (yet) an Apollo board.

Thanks in advance.


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Here is the translation of the page you have after clicking on "SIGN":

Civilite *

Nom *
Prénom *
E-mail *

Date de naissance *
Adresse *
Code postal *
Ville *
Pays *
Profession :
"Civilité" : Choose Mr for Mister, Mlle for Miss, Mme for Mrs
"Nom": Name
"Prénom": First name
"Date de naissance": Birthdate with day before month as DD-MM-YYYY
"Adresse": Adress
"Code postal": zipcode
"Ville": City
"Pays": Country
"Profession": job (not required)

We french people make the effort to write in english in UK/US boards even if we are really bad at foreign languages, so, for once, please support the Amiga in french :)
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 06:01:12 PM »
Quote from: Heiroglyph;689606
That's pretty much the way Amiga hardware goes, take it to your grave.  Damn annoying users!

At least we got the Haynie files.  That's an awesome resource.

Fingers crossed.

P.S. - Where is the petition?


Don't know why the link disappeared from the first post.

http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petition_give_apollo_boards_datas_to_the_amiga_community-11476.html
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 10:29:04 AM »
I have edited the first post to include the translation of the signing page for people who can't read french.
Thanks.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 12:52:12 PM »
Quote from: yssing;689791
You should just make it a habit of writing website text in english, especially if you want foreigners to read it or even respond to it.


The text of this petition is in english, half the website is in english. Only the filling form is in french.
Did you know that french was the international language from 16th century to the beginning of the 20th century? I guess most native english people have studied a bit of french at school, unless everyone has gone to the chinese lesson instead by now.
Anyway, i have translated the form in the first post.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 05:19:31 PM »
Quote from: Piru;689959
France Will Simply Have to Swallow Anglobalization of Common Language


Interesting article from the Wall Street Journal.
However, if we do learn and speak english, there is no need to abandon french. French is still a language for educated people around the world. Just see how Henry Kissinger / Tony Blair / Johnny Depp (to choose three random examples) prove their intelligence and culture when they can speak fluent french on TV. And if that's not enough, think of the Merovingian from Matrix :D
Latin should be the language for very educated people. Not to mention the Ancient Greek for extremely educated people. :)


About those Apollo, a first step would be to have the CPLD code to program MACH chips. The schematics would be even better. The primary objective is just to be able to repair our boards if necessary.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2012, 06:08:39 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;689985
Well I've always found the French to be xenophobic and somewhat arrogant.
And they share my government's unsettling willingness to sell arms to dangerous countries.
But then, I guess we're more similar then I like to think about.
In fact, if it wasn't for the King the French decided to behead, our own revolution would not have been successful.

French are proud and independant but not arrogant, and certainly no more xenophobic than any other people around the world. Some would say that USA are arrogant, racist and imperialist. However i don't, because i am educated enough to know american history and key figures from George Washington and Benjamin Franklin to Henry Kissinger to understand the heart of Americans and even sometimes feel like one of them (actually i do admire a lot Abraham Lincoln but really despise Kissinger).
And this goes for any other country including Jens Schoenfeld's Germany ;)

I agree that it is a shame that France sells weapons to any other country.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 01:06:31 PM »
Actually, my dear friends, your french or freedom fries have nothing to do with France.

French fries, "les frites", come from Belgium and even if some of the Belgians do speak french, this country is not a part of France since 1815.



As for the ones who are not interested in the release of the Apollo datas, why keep posting in there? There is so much to do on a Sunday afternoon, isn't it?
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 01:20:56 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;690050
Still, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the Apollo.


This thread has slid on some anti french commentaries because some members have found inacceptable to sign a petition on a website where a part of the text is written in french, even if those french words are translated in english on the first post.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 10:36:06 PM »
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Well theres 23 ppl who have signed the petition..


Actually, the total is 30 by now.
I hope we reach 100+ by the end of the petition scheduled for the 31th of May.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 01:16:18 PM »
There is no need to continue to argue with our nordic friends here whom obviously don't want to sign this petiton. Everything is translated on the first post for those can not use Google Translate.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 09:00:32 PM »
I would like to express my many thanks to the 34 signatories so far.
I hope to triple this amount at least before the 5/31/2012.
Do not hesitate to spread out this to other amiga boards that i do not know.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 09:15:53 PM »
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Tried to sign up but all in French.. haha Im at work so cant speed the time translating.


Please read the translation in the first post of the thread, a few lines below the link you have clicked.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 12:50:02 PM »
UP

Only 15 days left to get the chance to sign this.

54 people so far. Would be great to reach 100.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 08:24:13 PM »
Only 9 days left. 63 signatures yet.
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Re: Free the Apollo boards datas online petition: sign it!
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2012, 08:05:53 AM »
Quote from: Xanxi;689602
Hi Amiga.org friends.

I have got a petition online to try and convince our friends Jens Schoenfeld from Individual Computers to release the rights on schematics and CPLD code of the Apollo boards. He is the legal owner of all this, but notoriously he doesn't want to release the datas nor offer any support for the boards.
It is just a shame to let an Apollo 1260 die because we are unable to reprogram a new Mach 131 for it.
With hundreds of requests through this petition, may be he will change his mind and save the future of Apollo boards.
Please sign it here before 5/31/2012: http://www.petitionduweb.com/Petition_give_apollo_boards_datas_to_the_amiga_community-11476.html
You are welcome even if you don't have (yet) an Apollo board.

Thanks in advance.


EDIT:
Here is the translation of the page you have after clicking on "SIGN":

Civilite *

Nom *
Prénom *
E-mail *

Date de naissance *
Adresse *
Code postal *
Ville *
Pays *
Profession :
"Civilité" : Choose Mr for Mister, Mlle for Miss, Mme for Mrs
"Nom": Name
"Prénom": First name
"Date de naissance": Birthdate with day before month as DD-MM-YYYY
"Adresse": Adress
"Code postal": zipcode
"Ville": City
"Pays": Country
"Profession": job (not required)

We french people make the effort to write in english in UK/US boards even if we are really bad at foreign languages, so, for once, please support the Amiga in french :)


Today is the last day!
Don't miss the opportunity to add your signature to the 69.
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