Deneb VS Spider II USB Card

[Xanxi]

It would be great, after all those years, that someone find a solution to this Elbox problem and that we simply can use those Spiders. I own one for about 5 years (i have sc**** by an amiga professional dealer that sold it to me while i was unaware of the situation).
We are so few of us left that it is just a pity.
I confirm that the Deneb is awesome, but how could i fit one in my Mediator A1200T? I can also confirm that Subway is a poor board compared to a Deneb and probably to the Spider too.

[Xanxi]

I'm happy to see Chris Hodges in this thread.
Chris, will you ever be willing to do something for us, poor Spider owners?
For Christmas perhaps?

[Xanxi]

No, you can't write that Subway is a lame device and can't compare Subway to another device!

Subway is a solid and compact usb solution for Amiga via the clockport.

(FYI, Spider is a PCI card and Deneb is a ZorroII/III card)

Hi Gilloo

Yes the Subway is a good solution for the clockport but unfortunately it is slow and i still have power trouble with it even with a powered hub. When someone has used the Deneb, it's hard to only have a Subway in its flagship A1200.

[Xanxi]

Poseidon V4.4, available since February last year, has no longer any keyfile protection or similar code in it. If you want to use it with the spider.device, I'm not stopping you from. If it doesn't work due to bugs in the spider.device, you should contact Elbox for an updated driver. Apart from removing the "compatibility hack" in the V4.x versions (which simply did not send the reset command to the driver at start), I do not see any reasons why it shouldn't work.

You won't get "proper" USB 2.0 support though (regarding split transfers and such), but rather the way it was in Poseidon V2.x/V3.x, because as far as I know Elbox has not updated their driver in that direction. The docs how to do this are in the AROS repository.

This is as far as my support for the Spider gets.

That's very interesting, thanks

So, fellow amigans, you know where to direct your mails. My Mediator setup is not in working order right now but i will give it a try very soon and if it does not work i will spam out Elbox until they make their Spider 2 to work

[Xanxi]

Mediator is still interesting for a towerized A1200 which has no native zorro slots. Zorro busboards for the A1200 won't garantee you that those expensive zorro cards will work fine on your setup.
For any other amiga computer, i agree that there are enough good zorro boards available.

[Xanxi]

Put your hat back on :-)

The most amazing thing was to find a bug (believed to be killed from Rev9 to Rev11 changes) in the last Buster Rev11. Personally, doing the DENEB development gave me quite some experiences on designing in a hostile environment, so to say.

Even the developer group from phase5 seems to have stumbled on some Buster Rev11 issues while doing the FastLane Z3, but they couldn't solve the problem... the DENEB V11 firmware does fix that Buster bug in "hardware" and allows operating Zorro III RAM next to one (1) DMA master finally in a stable way.
That was the most surprising issue... even the schematics published in the patent stuff for Zorro III seem to reflect that problem :-)

As stated already, I'm open for licensing the hardware design to some guy willing to invest  money on production and product service. Anyhow, this guy should better check first if he is priviledged enough to acquire the Poseidon licences needed for legally selling the cards he has spent his money on in advance, and on his own full risk.

Michael

Hello.

Are you sure you want to end production of this board? I think it would continue to sell at a minimal amount in the future. I own one, but would like to know i can buy a spare anytime in case of problem, and i could even use a second one for another miggy in the future. I just don't have the money to stock them for now. And i guess those boards won't be easy to find on the second handd market.
Besides, you could also extend the Deneb life by offering an upgrade to owner of older boards like the Algor/Highway.