Why is this forum so Amiga unfriendly

[scuzzb494]

Hi

I have often wanted to ask this question but never had the guts... Why is it when I am in the workshop on my 4000D on dial up can I not use this forum. The pages just take forever to load up even with bags of memory and a PicassoIV. And when they do load I have to go through the stupid process of refresh after refresh which can take several minutes. And then to top it off... as just, I compose a post just to get dumped out for no reason. I just got a message saying could not post... What a waste of time.

This is not a purposeful moan, but you will appreciate that it takes a certain amount of skill and difficult to obtain hardware to get an Amiga on broadband. Using a modem is a simple option... But when you need help from here you just have to forget it. Just not possible. Just wonder sometimes just who the forum is for... Certainly not for Amiga users with basic kit. Sad that. Or is there another way I have missed.

A4000D 040 PicassoIV IBrowse and Miami

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

[scuzzb494]

Hi

I don`t agree.. There is nothing magical about HTML it is the creators of the pages that make it complex. I'm not intending entering into an argument over page content, thats totally the business of the forum, but the truth is when you need help with a slow machine this site creates real problems. You can discuss till the cows come home about the relative aspects of computer hardware, but trust me having a simple page for base Amiga folk wouldn`t be that bad a thing to have... A simple bulletin board answer and question page. Sadly the chat is what most are interested here, and I guess a load of those posting don`t even use Amigas... Us classic guys just got left behind a long time ago.

In essence, what it means is I can`t use this forum with my A4000D on dial up... For one thing I can`t post anyway I just get dumped out.

No matter... I have a work around. You have to when you actually use an Amiga.

PS I can`t ask for help on the Amiga cus it takes for ever to load pages and I can`t post from the 4000D cus even after being logged in I get rejected. Been like that forever.

Apologies for having a horribly outdated browser... I guess as ever we miss the point.

scuzz

[scuzzb494]

Hi

This is an Amiga workshop issue... When I am fixing machines and maintaining them. I have base machines set up to communicate in a crude way with the internet and that means dial-up. I have ethernet on the 4000T and A1200. The A1200 is on broadband... But sometimes I just need to log a simple question and I just find this forum unusable.. Sorry.

Its no real matter, cus it means just coming up here and logging onto the old PC and getting the answers I need. Just wish there was a very simple Amiga Classic friendly page in simple text for question and answers.

No worries, seriously, I never expect the modern bloat on pages to work classic side anyway. Have long given up on that.

scuzz

[scuzzb494]

OK

Perhaps I wan`t making myself clear .. Sorry

First: I have broadband
Second: I have Amigas on ethernet, PCMCIA, Samba etc etc etc. I have no problem configuring the Amiga to use broadband... sigh

However... When I am working on Amigas in the workshop I have but very very base Amigas to use. Saying that these are A4000ds with PicassoIVs and 040 processor, A1200s with Blizzards but no graphics cards...

With me so far... ?

Now... I could ethernet connect them and set up Samba etc to use my broadband, but really ... My point... You would have thought that anyone with the crudest of Amigas should, could access some online help facility. A simple bulletin board would suffice or newsgroup style answer page. Its not rocket science. The Amiga Org page suffers worse than most forums I frequent. Absolutley loaded with bloat and unecessary graphics that when your up against it you could do without.

This isn`t about hardware, broadband and browsers, its about helping those that need it the most.

As ever though, we drift off into the magical world of modern alternatives... When all I wish is that my humble Amiga could find help... No mind. Seriously. I have a work around... As ever.

scuzz

[scuzzb494]

Hi

Sorry... Again. I don't agree. The wait was to do with dialup generally and over ambition with web content. Newsgroups are great for messenging. It doesn`t have to be complicated or graphics intensive. Most of the stuff on the pages is just not necessary... like all those stupid symbols under each post and the avatars, or what ever you call them. Just add up the bytes of info for each graphic. Even worse is when folk put all their animated crap on the posts. Honestly. Words are so easy... Specially when your up against it and trying to solve a problem. The forum has become a chat venue ... What I need at times is a helping-hand.

PS I may enjoy my retro experience and its not cus I like living in the past. Its cus it truly is more fun. Modern computing is what generates this interactive chat world online which isn`t really what I muck around with computers for.
Anyway, I seriously have to get back to my Amigas... Too much chat. Bye.

scuzz

[scuzzb494]

Hi
[ quote ]

Sorry Jack but if you can't cope with the fact that online communication is more than 2400,8,n,1 it isn't anyone's fault but your own. Grow up.

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Sorry for the late reply, I was in my Amiga workshop mending an A500 for someone. I spend a load of time in my Amiga workshop amongst a whole bag of Amigas and I have to dodge around with workshop space as I have to bunt and shunt machines in and out to get the most practical use. I do need on a number of occassions to access help lines for guidance. I have long held the view that unless I need a complex and otherwise unanswered question I would not ask here from the workshop. Often cus I get responses like that. After all these years of using and continuing to use the Amiga I have learnt how to use every resource possible to assist and help. And yes I could accept that all this modern bloat on pages is necessary.. Maybe... But my point is that a base Amiga needing assistance from any Tom Dick or Harry with limited knowledge is going to find this site impossible to use. Sorry.

As I said yesterday I can`t even post a message... The site rejects me. I have no idea why... Its the same with my Win98 machine which I use upstairs for downloading stuff. And its not firewall issues.. And there is no hardwire firewall on a USRobotics. [ And the phone line is a clear as a whistle and I have a serial card in the 4000D... Goodness me I'm quite adapt at using dial-up ]

You can say what you like here, but the truth is that when I am shunting machines into slots to get running I still have to come up here to get a post on this forum. And I think that's a shame. And that is why this forum can be so unfriendly to the Amiga... If its putting off folk like me then I guess you can make your own mind up...

Don`t worry, I get my answers in the end. Usually from tech heads without the bloat. Also Groups and Newsgroups are magic. And after all this time I know a great band of Amiga folk that can help. Sorry... I grew up with my Amiga, though thank goodness, if being here is what being grown up is all about then perhaps I'm glad I'm not all grow'd up.

You have fun... I certainly do. Back to the workshop.

PS I only need the words... Text. Amazing how efficient a word is.. Animated gifs don't give me jack. A line of text is often all I need.. Been doing text on my computers since.. er thinks 1981.... and I still have working my computer from 1981. [ not on the internet though... giggles ]

scuzz
Not quite old enough.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

[scuzzb494]

Hi

Two images of 4000s I have in the Workshop...

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0406/car_1606_227.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a4000d_day/scuzz_may09_04.jpg

I also have set up all the time an A600, 2 x A1200s, A500 and at a pinch an A2000, but that I have to move into space. These are my base Amiga tools which I use generally all the time.

Upstairs I have my A4000T, A1200 tower and my A1200 heavily expanded on broadband... But I have to climb the stairs from the workshop.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com

[scuzzb494]

Hi

>so all this fuss was about climbing up that stairs ? get >used to it, its good for your health

If you knew my medical condition you would not find that at all funny... ha ha

scuzz

[scuzzb494]

Hi

>Oh and please stop saying sorry for having an opinion; >it's annoying and patronizing.

You stop being annoying and patronizing. Stop picking holes in argument just so you make yourself look superior. You really have no idea... Honestly. My whole argument here is about classic Amiga use, as ever, SORRY. I am a classic Amiga user. I live in an era that is a touch out of phase with what is going on today, SORRY. I apologise for my world, and I apologise for troubling you. SORRY. OK. As ever I wish I had never brought up the subject... Amiga.. OS3... Dial-up... Classic kit... Seems simple enough to me.. But hey.. As ever I'll go back to my interest. Its not about switching stuff off, its about supporting a very very small quarter of the community that still use their Amigas as was... SORRY.

Point taken on the niche market though. Dunno why I didn`t think about it before. I'll disappear off into the abyss then and wallow around in my own classic world of Amiga. Good idea that.

What can I say. Bye.

Can you close this thread [ please ]

scuzz SORRY