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Offline SlimJim

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Re: Latest Issue of Club Amiga Monthly Available Now
« on: April 02, 2003, 05:23:19 PM »
Shouldn't the older CAM:s soon be released to the public? I
think there were supposed to be a two-month delay to
reward the people in the Club (No, I'm not privvy to the CAM
either).
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Re: Latest Issue of Club Amiga Monthly Available Now
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2003, 09:59:07 PM »
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Anything else said now, is just re-writing history.
The beat-me, abuse me, take my money again crowd, is
doing a disservice to all those people that got their money
stolen by this company. You can donate your $50 if you
want, but you are making it harder for those who got
ripped off to have their voices heard. It's irresponsible of
you to do it. IMHO

 
Certainly it can be argued that
AInc didn't hold to their promises (whether this was out of
malice or not is open to opinion, but irrelevant when
considering the fact that time has invariably outrun the
goodwill of some of the buyers). By all means, the people
not having such an benevolent view on the lack of
delivery from AmigaInc, should make their voices heard -
they have certainly paid for their right to do so.
 
But the thing is that if you follow your own chain of logic,
it's is just as unfair not to hear the people with the
positive view as well. They too have paid for their right to
talk about it. It's their money on the line.
 
The only unnesecary noice in here is really you and me -
the people who haven't paid a dime in AInc:s coupon
scheme, but still tries to tell the people who *have* paid,
what they should think about it. We - and in the case of
the people having legit claims on AmigaInc, 'we' means
those among all us non-payers talking about the coupon
scheme as if they were personally swindled (not referring
to you personally here, please note) - are much
more responible for overpowering the voices among us
that DO have actual monetary reason to shout.  
 
I'm not promoting that people like you and I should not
have an opinion, by the way (actually I don't give a damn
about the coupons as such, but oh well) - I only
countercomment your idea that the "noice" is coming from
[still] supportive buyers when in reality people from the
sidelines (be they positive or negative) are really the
noicemakers.
 
The people wanting refunds ought to start demanding it of  
AInc, or sue them. If they want to come across in the
forums, they just have to either post well-reasoned posts
or shout higher that everybody else (this seems to be
the most commonly used operating procedure for anti-AInc
posts of any kind, oddly enough). What most easily blends
into the background noice is up to each and every
person to decide ...
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Re: Latest Issue of Club Amiga Monthly Available Now
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2003, 10:36:21 PM »
@Wayne
 
My point was not that anyone should have any bigger (or
lesser) right to have an opinion about events than anyone
else. If it came across as such, well, I didn't intend it to.
My point was that if any voices should be considered
more "noice" than others, it were to be those not
having club money on the line. And in that respect that
includes even people having done bucketloads for the
community such as you and other webmasters/
developers/etc.
 
As for the "camp mentality", I agree. As usual, there are
so many emotions flying around that debate easily gets
polarized into "factions" and "camps". The problem is that
such factions ought really to be temporary constellations,
lasting for a thread or so, when groups of people happen
to agree/disagree simultaneoulsy. Nowadays the camps
are created artificially, even when the discussion doesn't
warrant it (or doesn't even touch the same subject). The
"camps" have taken on a life of their own, influencing the
way people are judging other people's comments even
outside the actual hot subjects.

It's too bad. But sometimes I wonder if there would have
been any life left at all in the Amiga world had we not have
had such controversy to discuss. That we'll never
know.
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Re: Latest Issue of Club Amiga Monthly Available Now
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2003, 08:47:22 AM »
@Spidey
 
Reasonal post. But as I understand it, your main beef with
AInc (at least for the present time ;-)) is that you haven't
got access to the CAM despite being a member of the
club. Since it costs them nothing to add you, this sounds
only as an administrative hickup. Have you exhausted all
possibilities to contact AInc on this matter (no, I don't
know where to turn, since I never had the need)? HMetal
could perhaps point you in the right direction - send him a
PM on this site, perhaps?
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SlimJim