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Re: Cloning the CyberstormPPC
« on: December 01, 2011, 02:26:09 PM »
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Surely, with the outrageus prices the CSPPC cards go for these days, one ought to think there would be some business in the PPC for classic market. I like the idea with an FPGA based board. How about N050/N070 on that?

This has come up on the Natami forums before. Due to the cost of the FPGA (they are not cheap) you may as well buy a Natami and have done with it, that way you get all the advantages that Natami offers too.

As for those saying "I'm loosing interest as due to the huge cash required for accelerators etc. it's either a stock machine or emulation", don't give up hope yet. An A1200 with 030, SD card and USB isn't that expensive and will run most Amiga software very well, Natami shouldn't be long now either. If you need OS4, buy a SAM or wait for the OS4 netbook. That's before you even get on to using MOS or AROS.

It's only the 040+ and classic PPC market that costs stupid cash, and OK, so SAMS and the X1000 ain't cheap, but as I've said, the netbook is on it's way for OS4 (or hunt down a PEG maybe).
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Re: Cloning the CyberstormPPC
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 05:21:49 PM »
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I´m trying to build the Natami "Box Case" but its so hard to contact the Natami Team.


You could try a PM to Samuraicrow, he's an A.org member as well as a Natami team member.
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Re: Cloning the CyberstormPPC
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 06:04:10 PM »
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If OS4/MOS was ported to X86 your needs would be covered then. We are Amiga not Mac lovers and Amiga means superior to Windows X86 box AND costs less. Unless they achieve the price/performance of Xbox 360 motherboard as in late 2006 then they shouldn't bother making any hardware.....just port an OS4 version to x86 because it makes no sense as real Amiga production died with the A4000 and A1200. FACT.

A 3.4ghz P4 PC sells for 50 bucks so why would I buy some random non X86 machine for 1000s which would be as good as a used PC costing 50 bucks?. My problem is

1. I don't like Linux/Windows/OS X....there is nothing wrong with the current hardware.
2. I don't like overpriced underpowered PPC crap with nothing to do with the light years ahead of their time Amiga 1000 chipset designers to run OS4 just to avoid the above 3 OS

IF C=USA just sold cases AND wrote a decent OS from scratch for their chosen x86 spec then fair enough. But their cases are 300% overpriced and their blue/light blue colour themed Linux OS is more a joke than a new choice. There's already a Wb1.3 and Wb3.0 GUI skin for Linux and it's FREE derrrrr.

Or perhaps a 604 PPC core emulator to run OS4 inside WINUAE at BlizzardPPC/CyberstormPPC 233mhz levels that works too.

There will never be a true Amiga hardware replacement that is value for money, best you can hope for is a new OS.


I see your point, but I don't agree completely. Hardware needs up to OS3.9 are pretty well covered IMHO. With Natami on the way, Minimig, Chameleon 64 etc. we have plenty of choice. Of course, AROS, UAE and MOS add even more options.

Amiga better than X86 and costing less? Better yes but lets not forget that an A1000 with monitor cost about $1600 when the average PC with monitor came in at $1200 (circa 1985).

As for nothing wrong with X86 hardware, well I assure you that's not an opinion everyone shares. However, as I say, I do see your point that OS-only is financially the easiest way forward. I however have always seen the Amiga as a combination of hardware and software and I look forward to Natami for this very reason.

PPC emulation in UAE would be very nice for some but isn't for me, I'm not an emulation fan .

The real crux of the whole issue of course comes down to the hardware/software loop. Is it worth making hardware without the software that needs it? Of course it is, but what software is that when you need the hardware to write it for in the first place? The truth is that they drive each other and we need both.

A PS3 with extra RAM and OS4 would be a good start but that's just dreaming.

As for CUSA, I think I'll keep quiet before I upset someone, they'll crash and burn soon enough anyway. :D
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Re: Cloning the CyberstormPPC
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 08:20:45 PM »
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What ever happened to the sharkppc?


SHAAAARK!

___\0/______


It's due out anytime now. *

*The above comment is not in any way true.
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Re: Cloning the CyberstormPPC
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 08:23:42 PM »
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The supply of Sonnet PPC cards ran dry ;)


Yeah, the Dragon ate them....

...Yeah, I know.... What Dragon?

The one that lives with the sharks, of course.
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