It allways amazed me how Tiny managed to put components into machines that should have worked well together but somehow....didn't. They gave a new meaning to backwards engineering. Having said that, my old 486 (IBM Blue lightning) was from Time Computers and that was an ass kicking box. I gloated many times watching DX66 owners as they realised my "slower" SX50 (SX: no fpu) ran Doom noticably quicker than thier own machines. It's not what you do, It's the way you do it.