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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« on: January 09, 2012, 09:56:25 AM »
Hello,
I have an IBM ThinkPad T22 which has a S-Video output port. I was wondering if I could my Commodore 1084s-D1 monitor to this laptop, and if so what type of  S-Video do I need? I know that one end of this  S-Video need to be the standard connector, but I am not sure about the other end that goes to the back of 1084s-D1 monitor.

Any help would be really appreciated!

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/10842sd1_2_big.jpg
http://www.ehow.com/how_8020255_use-port-ibm-thinkpad-t22.html
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 05:45:37 PM »
Thanks, too technical for me, I wish there was a 'ready-made' off-the shelf that I could buy!
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 08:27:48 AM »
I am about to embark on converting a S-Video cable to dual RCA. The question is, how do I determine if my PC can output 15KHz screenmodes.

Do you know any Video card (ATi or nVIDIA) that are capable of this? Better yet, can my existing IBM ThinkPad T22, which sports a S-Video OUT connector do the job?

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 08:45:25 AM »
Thanks for the quick response. The thing that I don't understand on gertsy's diagram, is that the S-Video to Dual RCA, already comes with, well...Dual RCA, so why do I still need to perform any cuttings?

I mean the S-VIDEO connector goes to the back of my PC (video card/IBM ThinkPad), and the other end, the two RCA each need to go to Yellow (Luma) and Red (Chroma), so why do I need to do any cuttings then?

He says: "The best way to do this is take an existing svideo cable and chop one end off rewiring it to 2 x RCA as per the schematic.", well, if I get a S-VIDEO to Dual RCA, then do I still need any cuttings?
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 08:58:42 AM »
Yes, the more I re-read gertsy's post, the more convinced I am that if I use a S-Video to DUAL male RCA, then there is not need fro any cutting.
(I don't know why kedawa mentioned female RCA!?)

Is this that simple then?

p.s. my goal is to connect my PC/IBM ThinkPad, to 1084S-D1, and play MAME and other emulators, since they look pixalated on my LCD/Laptop screens (no matter what filter/smoothing features I turn on), and the jaggies tend to soften off (anti-aliased) naturally and much better on an older monitor such as 1084S-D1.

So the question is, would a cable like this, would do the job (no cuttings of course):

http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/s-vhs-y-cable.jpg
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 05:36:44 PM »
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Usually, you can also use a cable like this for composite only


When you say composite, you mean the other end also should have two RCA (instead of S-Video), right?
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 10:24:58 PM »
"and leave the other one dangling. "

So if I connect just one RCA, then it becomes a composite, and if I connect both an S-Video cable then? (sorry for n00bie questions!)
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 07:23:18 AM »
Success! Thanks to all, I managed to get a S-Video to single male RCA, as well as a RCA "Y" Cable, and combined the two, and it works on my ThinkPad T22!

QUESTION:

Now, I might be pushing it, but is there any way to utilize the RGB connector in the back of 1084S-D1 and connect it to the VGA connector of the PC (or in my case Laptop)?

I am sure the image quality would be much better!

Thanks.
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 03:07:27 AM »
*cough* that's hardly S-video *cough*

My current connection is as follows: I managed to obtain a S-Video (one end) to DUAL female RCA.

Then I obtained a Male RCA, Y-Splitter cable (all three ends are Male), and connected this to my S-Video cable above.

Then I connected one end of the cable (S-Video) to the back of my IBM ThinkPad, and the other TWO Male RCA connectors to Y (Luma) and C (chroma) of my 1084S-D1.

Is this still NOT a true S-Video hookup???
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 04:28:11 AM »
Thanks!
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 08:31:32 AM »
Do you think this 15Khz RGB CGA/Component YCbCr to VGA Converter Scale

http://www.ambery.com/rgbcgatovgac.html

Would be able to allow my ThinkPad IBM to be connected to Commodore 1084S-D1 through VGA? (RGB to VGA that is)

http://site.ambery.com/webgraph/AV1-CablingSetup.gif


What do you think?


Supports legacy computer devices such as Amiga, Atari, etc with compatible RGB output spec.

Thanks!
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 04:49:04 PM »
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a VGA to S-Video adapter is going to be your best bet

Yes, exactly! Is there such a thing? Also, by looking at the website again, I think that their propriety cable (9 pin DN to 15 pin VGA) might do the trick?

http://site.ambery.com/webgraph/CGA-VGACable.jpg

I also found the 15khz software:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Soft-15khz
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2012, 05:03:47 PM »
I see. Thanks for the link. As you mentioned, basically I am trying to connect my IBM ThinkPad, with various emulators (SEGA, SNES, MAME, NEO.GEO, etc.) running on Win XP, and connect it to my 1084S-D1 monitor. The ThinkPad LCD (or when connected to a regular VGA CRT monitor), shows the graphics pixellated (I don't like to turn on those software based filters, to smooth out the image), so that is why I am trying to connect it to a 1084S-D1: The S-Video smooths out the image considerably, but it has flicker (I even set the refresh rate under Windows settings to 75Hz and still see it).

Can anyone verify that the device which desiv posted would work?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-PC-Laptop-VGA-to-RCA-AV-TV-Monitor-S-Video-Signal-Adapter-Switch-Box-/250998657819?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a70af931b
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2012, 07:16:35 PM »
Thanks, I have already connected my IBM ThinkPad to 1084S-D1 that way (S-Video to Luma/Chroma), but I was under the impression that if I connect it via VGA to RGB, I will get a better/flicker free image (superior to S-Video).

I will post the images shortly...
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