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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« on: July 03, 2008, 09:22:15 AM »
All IDE-CF adapters are PASSIVE, meaning they are just wires.

The Amiga IDE interface doesn't support hot-plug.
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 11:06:27 AM »
To use the CF card as the Amiga's primary drive you need to format using an Amiga filesystem (e.g. FFS, PFS or SFS).

Using FAT32 makes it easier to transfer files between the PC and Amiga but you cannot boot your Amiga from a FAT32 formatted CF card. (Perhaps you could if you can get Fat95 into a Kickflash or other flash device, Algor Pro, Deneb, eFlash etc.)

To transfer files to an FFS formatted drive you can use ADFView. (For PFS and SFS you'll need to use WinUAE to transfer files)

I don't know if you can mix and match MBR (FAT) and RDB(AmigaOS) I would expect not. (But I could be wrong)
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 11:10:51 AM »
CD, DVD and I think ZIP disc are all ATAPI devices and so support REMOVABLE media.

Hard drives are ATA which (at least on the Amiga) doesn't support removable media.
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 03:07:35 PM »
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JJ wrote:
Could you partion the CF, and then have FFS on one partition and FAT16/32 on teh other ?

I did say above that I dont think so. They both want to use sector 0. But I am not an expert on RDB

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Does CF supports NTFS ?

CF is just a media card. It supports anything.

The Amiga of course cannot read/write NTFS without a 3rd party driver (which probably doesn't exist)
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 03:18:09 PM »
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a CF/IDE converter that had a backplate on it for use on a big box Miggy that would allow for the removal and reftting of a card from the rear of the machine (not while it was switched on though).

I was going to try one of these buddys but haven't located one yet - although I have seen a piccy and it seems quite a good compromise

The are like £4 including postage on ebay. There are hundreds for sale every day.

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/cf+panel
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 09:11:03 AM »
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there is a "driver" who manage NTFS in the Amiga! I just don't remember its name right now.

 It is available on Aminet. here!

Read only. Making it totally useless for transferring files FROM the Amiga.
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 09:13:42 AM »
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So, the though occurs to me that probably the best way to do what I want is to get a Subway or Deneb and a USB CF reader

Hmm, spend £80-150 on USB adapter OR ....spend £5 on a IDE->CF adapter and power-cycle your Amiga when you want to remove the card.

I know which one makes most sense to me.
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 11:00:27 PM »
What do you think that Giggledisk tool can do??
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 08:11:24 AM »
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Any particular reason for the overwhelming rash of negativity lately?

Erm, hadn't realised I had been. And it's called realism, not negativity :-)

You have to admit that wanting a USB host card solely for its hot-swap capability (which is what I read into your posts) is a bit crazy??

You also have to admit that wanting to format a CF card in NTFS is also a bit crazy considering they are so small and you can use FAT and have full compatibility.

And you have to admit that referring to an Amiga NTFS driver (which is cool, cos I wasn't sure there was one) but failing to mention in your post that it cannot WRITE isn't great homework?

While there is no implied negativity in my posts, I'll try and put the coddling around my answers you seem to desire

Where are my notes on how to avoid negativity in the work place... ahh yes... "That was a great reply, interesting conclusions, but have you thought that perhaps..." :-D

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You're being a real buzz-kill these days.

I think BuZz would disagree with you, I had a beer with him on Monday and when I left he was alive and well and went off to do some work on Exotica. :lol:
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 12:04:41 PM »
Expensive, inferior, irrational is what I say.

But it's your choice.

You should be aware that USB keyboards and mice do not work in games. (Or anything which bangs the hardware directly i.e. most non OS legal tools etc.)
 

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Re: Removable CF in IDE for A4000
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 01:34:06 PM »
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doctorq wrote:
Why even bother using an Amiga then?

Nostalgia & fun.

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doctorq wrote:
Why even bother developing things for it?

Depends what it is.