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Wanted: A500 Parts
« on: November 10, 2017, 05:16:19 PM »
Cancel Parts Request - Ordered Through Ebay

Hi all.... I'm looking for (at a reasonable price):

1. An empty shell, nice condish, (not chicken lips or plus).

2. A keyboard, nice condish, US layout preferred, I don't need the circuit board if that helps.

3. 512KB trap door expansion. Must have 16 IC's on board.

4. Or, a good deal on a dead A500.

eBay is outta control & shipping from the EU is too much! :(

Thanks for looking....... :)
« Last Edit: November 13, 2017, 02:09:39 AM by gizmo350 »
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Re: Wanted: A500 Parts
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 03:11:48 PM »
Quote from: BLTCON0;833005
Any specific reason for the 16 chips?
(e.g. matching aesthetics? old Agnus refresh limitations?)

Quote from: BLTCON0;833005
Old Agnus refresh limitations?)

Exactly... it's for a Rev 3 motherboard. :)
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Re: Wanted: A500 Parts
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 06:53:51 PM »
About this NTSC rev 3 board…. It was shelved appx 10 years ago patiently waiting a bit of troubleshooting. Long story short, I was using the rev 3 case (chicken lips) for my rev 6A board as the rev 6A machine had an unfortunate accident about 10 years ago. The rev 6A mobo, floppy drive, keyboard circuit board & bottom case is all that survived. When I was salvaging the 6A machine, I found that it would no longer boot. Swapped some CIAs around from the rev 3 board brought it back to life. Recently needing to verify bad CIAs now in the rev 3 board, I found it cheaper to just buy another rev 6A board. Determined bad CIA and ordered a couple (MOS for authenticity). Rev 3 board all better now.

So back when I bought two A500 machines around 2005 (can’t remember why I bought two - they were dirt cheap then) I had no idea that there were different motherboard revisions. Well, you know how it goes, the more you learn, a guy figures out what he has and after checking what rev the second machine was (after the transplant) I started modding the rev 6A machine just the way I wanted it. I just took my time over the years. So always remembering that the rev 3 board was shelved, I realized that I need to put that machine back to its formal glory. Why? Cause this stuff is getting harder and expensive to replace & I realize what these machines are worth now! Funny, when I bought them I kind of treated them crappily. The 6A machine was simply used as a toy when the guys would come over for beers in the garage (good times!). Now, I treat this stuff like gold! LOL

So now looking for some parts to house my rev 6A - highly modded - board. And I now have a spare rev 6A mobo too. But, just to get the NTSC rev 3 machine (with the original US layout keyboard) back together, at a minimum I’m gonna need a keyboard.

So, now that you mention the Gary chip on a rev 3 board (this is great info you’re providing BLTCON0) I knew I had to take a second look at it ‘cause when replacing the MOS CIAs I noticed that the Gary chip was the only one (besides the CPU) that was not a MOS chip and I wondered if it had been replaced by someone. It’s labeled CBM 5719 / TC17G008AP-0025 / Japan 8713EAI. So, is this the Toshiba made chip? Would you happen to have a part # for the MOS Gary chip? But other than this IC, yes, I want to keep this board as original as possible (gloating purposes, ya know?). I had two 512KB expansions and one wouldn’t work with the rev 3 board. I stashed a keyboard and that expansion board and can’t find them anywhere!

Oh, and how did I know about the 16 IC’s? Cause Jens said so…. LOL

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/A512.html#filter=*

OK, sorry so long, but that’s the story. Now that I have some time to actually get my A500’s sorted out, I’m having lot’s of fun! Got all kinds of new goodies to play with for the rev 6A machine!
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Re: Wanted: A500 Parts
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 04:57:36 AM »
@BLTCON0

This is the invaluable type of information I love learning about! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this and providing the link to your Amibay post! This is one of the rare times that different snippets of CBM oddities were aggregated to provide an explanation of what occurs with these machines and their revisions. I had no idea that there was a buggy Gary or different revisions of the A501 - and would never have known that there is a refresh compatibility jumper - especially since the A501 has that full shield soldered shut (these are actually fairly easy to disassemble).

Ordered a MOS Gary IC... NOS...

Thanks again BLTCON0 :)
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 03:53:00 PM by gizmo350 »
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Re: Wanted: A500 Parts
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 02:10:18 AM »
Cancel Parts Request - Ordered Through Ebay
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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Re: Wanted: A500 Parts
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 03:19:59 AM »
Quote from: BLTCON0;833061
This is where the schematics come in useful :-)
The last page of the A500 rev6A schematics details the A501 rev6C - the jumpers in discussion are JP2 and JP3 and, apparently, the refresh fix is factory-enabled.

@BLTCON0

Thanks for the A500 rev6 schematic.... which led me to Amigawiki.de... which I had never seen before! Looks very comprehensive indeed!!! :)
Another great resource for Amiga knowledge!!!

BTW, I think I'll display my Toshiba Gary in some little transparent case and name it "BAD GARY" :lol:



Thanks again BLTCON0 :)
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, IDE4ZorroII on Z-500, KS1.3/KS3.1, WB3.1&BWB
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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