Buddha & TrueIDE in A2000 problem...

[giZmo350]

So, finally received my TrueIDE from AmigaKit. I installed the Buddha card with the TrueIDE w/2 AmigaKit supplied CF cards (correctly w/power to the TrueIDE) but the A2000 Rev 6 won't even attempt to boot the floppy and I can't get a ROM 3.1 boot screen either.   If I remove both the CF cards I can get a ROM screen or I can get the floppy to boot the AmigaKit OS Install disk but, of course, I immediately get a message that there is no ADH0 attached.  With the CF cards inserted I get no ROM boot screen so, of course, nothing is ever gonna happen... any thoughts from others with this setup? Any help is greatly appreciated - at least to just get past this initial problem. THX!  BTW, I've researched every TrueIDE/Buddha post on the web extensively - not much out there....

[giZmo350]

@Mike - Expansion Board Diag in early startup shows - WORKING. The Buddha is the only expansion board in the system.

@gary2000 - both AmigaKit CF cards are 4GB - formatted FFS. I tried with just one CF card - same thing.

Another observation:

If I supply power to the TrueIDE from the A2000's floppy drive connector it "acts" like it's not getting power to the TrueIDE (please insert volume ADH0 in any drive) because I get the same message when I disconnect power from the TrueIDE.

Same as when I remove the CF cards.

I can get floppy to boot and ROM boot screen.

I measured the +5 and +12 volts correctly with a DVM on the floppy connector - floppy drive works perfect from same power connector.

However:

If I use a floppy extender cable from one of the A2000's molex plugs (also measures correctly and the same voltages as the floppy connector with a DVM) I get a totally different message from the AmigaKit OS Install disk if I use a 4GB CF card supplied by AmigaKit from a different CF HDD adapter that is formatted SFS.

Software Failure - ADH0 program failed (error #80000003) wait for disk activity.

If I use either of the 2 FFS formatted CF cards that AmigaKit supplied with the TrueIDE the machine won't boot and I can't even get a ROM boot screen.

I'm lost..... Yes, I read all the documentation...

Thought: Do I need to reinstall my SCSI controller and HDD & install the Buddha software to the SCSI HDD to get an OS on the CF card(s)?

[giZmo350]

And you are sure there is no problem with the TrueIDE working and you have tested the Buddha with a plain HDD.

Hey Dan.... well, I can get the TrueIDE to respond in a different manner with a different CF card supplied by AmigaKit from a different CF adapter (never used) formatted SFS. So, I can't tell if there's a TrueIDE problem or not. Would you say that the Buddha is working if early startup diags say WORKING? Hmmm. I didn't try a laptop HDD... could be next course of action.

@Mike - That could be a possible next course of action too....

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

OK, so scratch any PSU weirdness from the floppy power connector - the +12V wire was all gonked on the A2000's last connector - FIXED!

Next: gonna hook up an old laptop drive to the Buddha that has an old OS3.9 install on it.

[giZmo350]

OK, connected laptop HDD that has old OS3.9 on it... here's the result...  

Now I get this message:
Software Failure - Program failed (error #80000004)
Wait for disk activity to finish.
SUSPEND - REBOOT

If I boot from AmigaKit's OS Install disk from floppy, with the laptop HDD connected, I get:

Please insert volume ADH0 in any drive.

Switch back to the TrueID...
with FFS CF card - nothing happens at all
with SFS CF card - Software Failure - ADH0 - Program failed (error #80000003)

[giZmo350]

Thanks for all the replies guys...

I think I'm getting somewhere...

I connected ANOTHER old laptop HDD that had OS3.1 on it and it booted! (funny how we have these just laying around! LOL)
It has IDE-Fix97 on it!
Is that the key here with the Buddha & TrueIDE?

[giZmo350]

I am using a cheap CF adapter from EBay along with the Buddha. Could it be the CF cards? Try to pull the SCSI.

Hi again gary2000....

The only expansion I have in the A2000 right now is the Buddha... this is like a big catch 22! If I have a CF card inserted in the TrueIDE when I boot up I get "Software Failure - ADH0 program failed (error #80000003) wait for disk activity". If I boot up off the AmigaKit OS Install floppy, with no CF card in the TrueIDE,  I get "Please insert volume ADH0 in any drive". The supplied AmigaKit CF cards are formatted as ADH0 which should be recognized right away but are not. The only thing I can see different is the fact that I have IDEFix97 installed on the laptop drive that booted right off the Buddha. So, I know that the Buddha at least works correctly... I guess... UGH!

[giZmo350]

The AmigaKit CF cards (with preinstalled software) are pretty much designed to be problem-free with the amiga, unless during shipping the heads got knocked out of alignment...

Those dang CF heads!

IDEFix when implemented, mostly corrects for the lack of ATAPI commands on the IDE, so I would guess you have to get enough of a boot to run it if it is truly needed;

Xactly! I just need to get far enough in a bootup to take control of this... work of art!

...however an error on one "install" vs another can be due to missing libraries loaded at startup.

"Install"... I'm finding that "versions" are hazardous...

Starting with no Startup-Sequence would let you run both the IDEFix and SetPatch (the latter of which can cause big issues with booting).

I could never figure out what to do after a "No Startup Sequence" boot...

I believe that "The Answer is Out There!"

You are correct..... I'm gonna start another post now for further fun!

[giZmo350]

Trying to install an OS on a Buddha/TrueIDE naked ain't gonna happen...

I've been trying to get my SCSI HDD to boot from a GVP +8 with the Buddha/TruIDE also installed - 'cause I gotta somehow see this puppy in HDToolBox, right?

OK, so this is mostly all a big boot timing problem.

I eliminated the "Software Failure message" that the TrueIDE CF card was causing at boot sequence by getting the old SCSI HDD to boot faster than that CF card! I did that by putting my Blizz 060 back in (yea I switched some libs first) 'cause it hauls a$$.

Well that worked great! The TrueIDE CF card partitions show up in WB. I can run HDToolBox and see the following drive: TEAC - USB - HS-CF Card 4.00. So I know I'm staring that CF card right in the face! I can also edit the drive parameters.

Now, here's the tricky part...  How do I bleeeeeeping get OS3.9 on that CF card from here? I have complete command over this device at this point - I think. SCSI CD drive is working perfect. This is where I usually duff things.

How would peeps get this done without a really fast SCSI controller?

[giZmo350]

Well, where is you OS3.9 install located?

In my left smock pocket on CD at the moment... Hmmmm, I need help prepping this card first...

BTW, the 2 FFS formated CF cards (mentioned earlier) that AmigaKit suppied with the TrueIDE continue to bring the A2000 to it's knees - no activity on the SCSI bus, no floppy activity, no ROM boot screen, no nuthin! Whaz up with that? The SFS card that was supplied by AmigaKit with a regular 'ole CF adapter reads - no problem. (NOT picking on you AmigaKit!) I just tried an old fat32 Transcend and I can see that too. Be a good practice card... :laugh1:

[giZmo350]

You have the 3.9 Emergency floppy already?  You'll want to make one of those.

Just a quick thought from skimming, you sure the Buddha & TrueIDE are fully compatible with your modded accelerator?

Ah! This is where an install gets a bit complicated with the Blizz! I created that disk on the Miggy 1200 a couple of weeks ago as you suggested. I tested a few times in various install scenarios and the process just chokes on the startup-sequence 'cause of different hardware. So, I need to create an OS3.9 ERD for this install somehow. I can't back the Blizz out now - it's the only thing that's savin my a$$ at this point! :lol: The only thing to remember about the Blizz is that it has it's own Blizz drivers!! I can only see drives on the BlizzBaby with the Blizz SCSI utility. No biggie though! This all took awhile to figure out...I'm new to the 060 club... lol

When I put the OS3.9 CD in, it shows up on WB, no prob. But, I can't just install 3.9 to that CF straight way, can I? I must start with OS3.1... right? See? Told ya this is where I duff it!

Should I create an OS3.9 ERD now on this machine? How dumb am I... probably! Problem is, the current booted SCSI HDD to WB has OS2.1 on it.... I can't get the "create ERD program" to start. How do I make the ERD from here? HAHAHAHA.... can you feel my tension?

[giZmo350]

Unrelated side note, did you get your 4.1 FE yet?   I was amused to see that it comes with it's own ERD.  Should throw it in my 2000 and see how fast it chokes on it, lol.  

Yea, for the love of moldie cheese, finally yesterday... got that and my TrueIDE. That ERD pissed me off 'cause it fell immediately on the floor when I popped that CD case open!  HAHA, you're Miggy 2 Grand won't do sh!t 'cause you have no PPC in it! :roflmao:

[giZmo350]

Yes, you can install straight from the CD.  The ERD is only to "get you to that point" if you know what I mean?

Jeeeeeze! I shoulda went to the "OS3.9 Installation" 30 minutes ago! Gimee a minute... lemme see what happens... should I create an ERD first... right now? ARG! I gotta stop asking Q's before I read... there's a "Install 3.9 full on empty hard drive"...  DOH! Hold on.....  HAHAHA, then it tells me to make an ERD....  hold on again.......

[giZmo350]

Come back when you've had some coffee!  :roflmao:

RIGHT! OK, the ERD boots and I get a funky, yet beautiful, ERD backdrop... Seriously I have no idea what to do now... I've never been in this galaxy quadrant. I just fired up HDToolBox and I see: 2060scsi.device which is my Blizz, and buddha_atapi.device and scsi.device. Don't I have to prep this CF card at some point? I've been at this since noon EDT... I'm tired! TO BE CONTINUTED! Thanks for all the help today guys! This is a great learning experience. OS3.9 on an A2000 is gonna rock! I still have to add OS3.1 to a second dual boot CF for the Toaster side! HA! This is great!

PS - I still wanna know how Brian got his to work.... he's not talkin! :lol: