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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« on: April 08, 2004, 10:47:42 PM »
Any reason to ban smoking is a good reason IMHO.

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2004, 09:23:26 PM »
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 disagree. I'm a smoker and I actually enjoy smoking and willpower has nothing to do with it. I don't want to stop and don't see why the governement and others wish to impose their views on me.
 


I don't believe you... you couldn't give up smoking any more than I could give up masturbating... I'm sure you'd be really unhappy if I sat down in a pub, poped my little chap in the table and then "manipulated it to issue"... however I'm sure we would all share in your delight as I proceed to smear the resultant emission in your hair, clothes and face...

Fortunatelly, for you, there is a public ban upon masturbation.

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2004, 09:51:51 PM »
I always abstract every situation to it's most extreme. That makes it easier to see.

Anyway, I have no problem with people smoking/masturbating in pubs. But what about walking down the street. I have no choice but to "enjoy" the experience of another persons addiction.

What say you?

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2004, 10:12:45 PM »
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But what about walking down the street. I have no choice but to "enjoy" the experience of another persons addiction.

What say you?


Considering the density of the traffic these days I would think that you are more likely to become ill due to the traffic fumes than the brief one second that you may pass a smoker on the street.

Does everyone want to ban the car??


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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2004, 03:42:02 PM »
One probem with no smoking pubs, at least here in London, is they are always so packed, you can't get in :-x

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2004, 04:24:04 PM »
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Standing upwind of someone and sparking up, or smoking while someone else is trying to eat, etc., is inconsiderate and downright f**king rude.



Yeah, I wouldn't expect a Smoker would be too happy if I engaged in an act of self love next to them, whilst they were trying to enjoy a fine meal.

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2004, 08:29:51 PM »
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Yeah, I wouldn't expect a Smoker would be too happy if I engaged in an act of self love next to them, whilst they were trying to enjoy a fine meal.


True, but if there is a Miss Bloodline then that might make things more interesting....... :-D  :-D


I'm not sure she'd be as keen as me to perform this act, in public :-)

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2004, 08:46:47 PM »
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Exactly which goods do you suggest we tax, if smoking were to be banned, and don't forget you would need to cover the extra social security payments to those who were made redundant when shops turnover declines.



When people don't smoke they have more money, and spend more on luxuries. Which boost the Economy. And the reduced strain on the health service all compensate.

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2004, 09:00:35 PM »
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When people don't smoke they have more money, and spend more on luxuries. Which boost the Economy. And the reduced strain on the health service all compensate.


No item is taxed as much as cigarettes, so although expenditure may remain the same actual tax revenues will fall (even if you take account of higher profits).

The reduced strain on the NHS will harm non-smokers, at present they are subsidised by smokers, things will only get worse if smoking is banned.

Less cancer specialists, less equipment......sound like a world you would like to live in??

No me neither...

P.S. Hope you didn't take offence at the Miss Bloodline reference - I was only joking.


No offence taken :-) (I would hope you don't take offence at my counter argument).

Anyway, if more moeny was spent on proper items, we get a stronger ecomony. When you buy something that requires 2 people to make rather than a cigarette that requires approx no people to make, then it creates jobs.

You see cigarette tax is a false economy, and it is unsustaiable.

As for the NHS, that will remain the same regardless. If we have to pay more tax that won't matter since we will ahve more money in our pockets due to the strong economy... you see cigarettes really are a bad thing.

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Re: Wanna live longer? Stop other people smoking!!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2004, 11:36:06 PM »
High tax income from cigarettes does not an economy make. :-)