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You're obviously not an assembler programmer!

It's more to do with the whole thing, though. The boards that we have now are all really good quality - certainly my Sam440ep is a lovely little machine, and it's obviously different to your standard PC board. My currently-unused X1000 looks to be similar in that respect (not tried it yet as I can't afford the case, PSU and RAM!). I wouldn't get excited about a bog-standard PC mobo, even if it were running AmigaOS. No idea why, just the way it is!
I'm as assembly guy and I think the PPC is a horrid ISA... A quick look at MIPS and ARM show you how an instruction set is supposed to be done :)

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Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 10:49:18 AM »
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Heresy! :)

ISA's were perfected when Motorola designed the 68000.

I think it was you Matt that once said that AMD should have "Athlonized" the 68k and not the 386.

I couldn't agree more with that statement.

Now where did I put my pipe and slippers?
Definitely sounds like something I would have said, a search on this forum will provide evidence :)

I think Athlonising the 68k would have been amazing, but it would have lead to similar problems that both intel and AMD have now... Lovely computing performance but at a terrible thermal and electrical cost :(

Though it would have given us a solid platform for development... Look at the new ARM v8 ISA, it's actually a bit nasty compared to the ARM v7, but it was developed after analyzing real code output from compilers and seeing how to get serious performance in a low energy budget :)

-edit- Forgot to mention that I have an ARM v8 chip here, and it is something else in performance... In a phone too!!! :-D
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Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 03:25:57 AM »
It has got to the point now, that it actually makes more sense investing in the FPGA Amiga clones, and trying to develop a faster 68k FPGA core than it does wasting money on any future PPC system.

Neither the 68k or the PPC have a real future... But at least with an FPGA 68k core we can ensure future development and progressively better performance as FPGAs get better (and the community is able to advance the core design), and obviously the 68k has more interesting software :)

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Re: ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 07:16:24 PM »
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So, just in case you didn't know, PPC is not entirely dead (nor is it "restin after a long swauk").


Not discounting the fact you like the PPC ISA, though I'm not sure what makes it attractive to you, I'm keen to know how you draw the conclusion that te PPC isn't dead? No new designs use it. No major manufacturer supports it for mainstream usage and there are no road maps for the future.  I can't even find any opensource FPGA implementations :(