Opera 10 Mobile come to maemo

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Hmmm, I've tried Opera on my iPhone... Not sure what the advantages are over the built in browser... I can't really read the text I'd stick with a webkit based browser, regardless of platform.

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well they fixed the tearing problem  now.  opera does have some nice features.  but on my phone got bullit in browser with flash, firefox, chromium, opera to name a few. and all give better browsing experience than iphone

Ok, no need to turn this into an iPhone bashing thread, I was just pointing out deficiencies in Opera!

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much

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I knew that would get you
 
Wanted to ask what the dev tools for the iphone was like ?
 
is it C++ ? is it a proper IDE like visual studio ?

The Xcode IDE is brilliant, with fully integrated debugging and a simulator to develop on, before you plug a real device in... The catch is you have to learn Objective-C which was completely alien to me. I think it was about a month of hitting my head against a brick wall before it clicked... Once you get Obj-C, the iPhoneOS APIs are a dream, very well thought out and every conceivable feature built right into the OS frameworks...

The actual "code" is standard C/C++ so if you know that you are gonna do fine... But to access the libraries and frameworks you need to know obj-c.

This is not more bait by the way.  I am giving up smoking, on day 15, and was thinking about getting my teeth into some proper dev above the stuff i did in basic years ago.
 
Would this be a good starting point do you think ?

Hmmm, learning the iPhone OS is a great was to fill one's time... The whole event driven object oriented design is weird and brilliant compared to the AmigaOS

On the other hand, I'm inclined to have a look at that new Android appnbuilder thing, it's much simpler and seems better for a hobby.

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I posted link about the goole stuff the oter day, but didn't actually look myself
 
I know no C or  C++ or any object orientated language to be honest.
 
My skills stop at various form os Basic,  even the coding part of my job only envolves a very simple form of basic( which asctually makes life harder aseveryhting needs to be done by hand and with calls to VB api using ole calls.
 
So might stick to learning VB for now as have plenty of books on that and VB not restricted in any way these days so as powerful (if not as effcient) as C on windows these days,

VB is pretty nasty... Have a look at learning C, that if nothing else will be a whole lot more useful and interesting than VB

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Almost forgot about JavaScript, that's really awesome! Combine that with HtML5 and you have a really powerful platform!