QA with Alan Redhouse

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I think he was unnecessarily harsh about AROS...

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jd997uk wrote:
@DaveP

Where? I did a string search on AROS and found no matches?

That's Bloodlines (irrelevant) point: AROS weren't mentioned.

-john

:-D and it's not irrelevant. So far Alan has not offered the AROS team an AmgiaONE...

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DaveP wrote:
Maybe the Queen will mention it in her speech come reopening
parliament. If she doesn't, I guess Matt will mention it on here no?

If the Queen started a line of PPC (or any other interesting architecture) computers, sure, I'd Email here and ask her if the AROS team could have sone to port AROS to it.

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DaveP wrote:
"I think he was unnecessarily harsh about AROS..."

@Matt

How is not giving you a board being harsh about AROS?

I think you didnt even read the interview before you wrote
that. ;-) Admit it! ;-)

Dave.

:-) actually I did read the interview. but you are right that, I'm a little sensitive about he's lack of interest in AROS :-)

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SlimJim wrote:
@bloodline
 
Well, have you ASKED Alan about getting a developer
machine? What did he say?
.
SlimJim

I sent him an Email asking him iif he would like to donate a board to the Team for the specific purpose of getting AROS running on it.
I also asked if he would provide full technical support for our task of porting the OS.

I recieved no reply :-(

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lempkee wrote:
bloodline:where is that link to 68k aros ? , i lost track of the thread where u was supposed to have info about it + aros for non x86 machines.

There should be an old Build on Aminet somewhere, but idealy you should build a freah one from the sources. You have a linux machine so it should not be too hard. If you have any problems just ask on our mailing list or IRC :-)

-Edit- Currently there are three 68k builds, One for the Palm, One for 68K Linux (running on an Amiga) and One for the Amiga to replace parts of the OS. AFAIK all three are binary compatible with AmigaOS programs.

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DaveP wrote:
Come on Matt, I have made a generous genuine offer to help you
get an A1 for AROS and all we get is silence.

An answer would be great, otherwise I might start to think
that you don't really want an A1, it's just another excuse
to try and show the "triarchy" in a poor light ;-)

The reason why I would have to turn down your offer is the same as why we had to turn down a similar offer from Genesi.

AROS has to remain Platform independant. If you work on the porting AROS to the A1, 99% of the code would be the same as all the other version of AROS, only the boot code and lowlevel drivers (we use AmigaOS style resources as a sort of HAL) would need to be A1 specific (and probably almost identical to the Pegasos port).

I would be very happy to start a bounty for porting to the A1 that you would be welcome to work on though. :-)

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DaveP wrote:

The reason why I would have to turn down your offer is the same as why we had to turn down a similar offer from Genesi.

ROS has to remain Platform independant. If you work on the porting AROS to the A1, 99% of the code would be the same as all the other version of AROS, only the boot code and lowlevel drivers (we use AmigaOS style resources as a sort of HAL) would need to be A1 specific (and probably almost identical to the Pegasos port).

Right. I don't see how my offer breaks this.

I would be very happy to start a bounty for porting to the A1 that you would be welcome to work on though.

Im confused. Seriously, not teasing. You wanted an A1 to
port AROS ( a fine thing ), and indeed were quite unhappy that
it didn't happen. I offer to donate towards getting you an
A1 ( and Im sure the donations would have piled up quick ) to
port AROS, and now you don't want one - you would rather
I did the port for you?

--- getting a bit lost.

Dave.

I am probably missunderstanding what you want to do.

Ok, If we start a Bounty for the porting of AROS to the A1, then you will be happy to work on it?

or

You would be happy to put money into a bounty for an A1 port?

or

you want to create a separate organisation to port AROS to the A1...

What ever way you would be happiest, you would have to work very closely with the Pegasos and LinuxPPC people.

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Panthro wrote:
no he just wants to throw money at you so you can get an A1 for you own efforts as in the AROS related ones you Emailed Alan about!!

An A1 isn't enough though... Genesi are providing technical support for the Pegasos port, Eyetech would need to provied the same (or we wold need a dev who already knows the A1 system).

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You know, the king (of Sweden, that is) is reported to have bought several Atari ST machines. Why not port AROS to that one in the meantime?

I'd love to see AROS on an ST... (actually I'd rather see it on a Falcon) but are there any developers left who know anything about it anymore?

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JurassicCamper wrote:

bloodline wrote:


:-) actually I did read the interview. but you are right that, I'm a little sensitive about his lack of interest in AROS :-)

I don't thinks it just Alan.
I'm not interested in AROS or MORPHOS and I'm not going to pretend I am. I'm sure you doing a great job and your a great person. Nothing personal I'm just not interested either.

Edit .... mis read a post

THat's fair enought, but may I ask what it is about AROS that doesn't interest you?

Without being funny, but most (yes/no?) people who want OS4 have at least a passing interest in AROS... if for no other reason than it's free and makes PC's work and look nice :-)

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Martyn wrote:
I don't believe it!  He's done it again!
Turned a thread into a complete AROS-fest!

Matt, you are becoming a master at this!! :-)

I must say, I'm losing my touch ;-) I used to turn every thread into one... I've been tired recently :lol:

Anyway, this IS a legitimate thread topic, since it's about the AmigaONE, which is a machine that I want AROS to run on. :-)

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JurassicCamper wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Without being funny, but most (yes/no?) people who want OS4 have at least a passing interest in AROS... if for no other reason than it's free and makes PC's work and look nice :-)

Yes I am interested in OS4, However, Matt I must fall into the minority category that doesn't have an interest.
Why ? I guess for the same reasons why i'm not interested in watching paint dry or reading about chelsea football club or ...... if you see what i mean.

Hmm, but those things are unrelated to the Amiga community (well Chelsea FC was sponsored by Commodore-Amiga and waiting for new Amiga hardwre has been like watching paint dry) but AROS is an interesting part of this community...

Still you have your reasons and that's fine. But I would like to understand your view point.

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JurassicCamper wrote:

bloodline wrote:
 But I would like to understand your view point.

Q. Its is official.....
A. No.

Q. Does it look like Amiga OS.....
A. Yes but I've got that already with my 1200 / 4000

Q. Is it Binary Compatible....
A. No.

Q. Am I going to learn anything new like I am doing with Linux and my A1 ?
A. No I dont beleive so. I know how the BIOS works in my PC and I know how to navigate AmigaOS.

Q. Its it going to allow me to run my old Amiga software and new OS4 software ? ....
A. No.

ok, :-)

I'm going to have to be honest here, but I don't AROS is for you... I suggest you look at OS4 and MorphOS .