Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

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It's laughable to hear people still living in the SJ reality distortion field! I'm a big fan of what Steve Jobs has done, but have PPC Macs and intel Macs... And regular PCs, and at no point did the PPC ever run faster than an equivilent priced x86... And certianly not a power efficient... The ISA is relatively unimportant, what matters is the implemention... And unless you have the sort of money intel, AMD or ARM has you will not out compete them.

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iPhone*games*only*come*in*download*form,*they*only*cost*£5...*I've*bought*4*in*the*last*month...*Before*that,*I*used*to*buy*about*2*games*a*year...***

The software houses have learned that passing the savings of the download (and virtually unpiratable) formats on to the consumer results in more sales! Win *****

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You're on drugs mate.

Not today.

Look at the Pentium 4 era. Tell me, truly and honestly, that it wasn't a slow peice of shit whatever the clock speed. All the other cpu designs, like ppc, sparc, had only just reached 900mhz when intel were flouting 1.7Ghz. Great guys, you got a huge pipeline. Your processor is still clock for clock slower than the chip it replaced.

Not sure where I mentioned the Pentium4... that was a piece of junk... I used the AthlonXP and Athlon64 chips during the P4 era... my argument still stands.

Look it up. Compare, speed wise, a pentium III 1ghz with a P4 1ghz. The P4 gets it's ass handed to it. It wasn't just the G4 that beat it, it was every other design out there. And power efficient? I'd say a 3watt proccessor is pretty power efficent. I've never seen someone have to bolt a big ass peice of metal with a fan to a G4. You know what? How intel CPUs seemed to reach 2.5-3.5Ghz in 2003 and roughly stay there ever since? That's because they were designed for pure megahertz ratings over actual performance. It was marketing.

I bought a 1.5Ghz G4 Powerbook to run Logic Pro 7, I also had Logic Pro Platinum on my 2Ghz Athlon64... The Powerbook could only run half the number of effects/pluggins/tracks as the Athlon machine... it also cost twice as much.

The G4 was a slow old processor in 2005...

The G5 sucked though. Was that one IBMs or Motorola's fuckup?

Sure did.

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My fault there, but are any of the x64 CPUs fully compatible with their 32-bit counterparts? No, try running any of the 486 apps on an i7 with 7 64-bit. Get back to me if you get it to run?

Of course 486 software runs on the new x64 (or x86-64 depending which name you prefer)... Hell, all modern x86 chips support long mode (the 64bit mode we are talking about)... Scary, bu they will still even run software written for the 8088, as used in the original IBM PC!!!

Please do some research BEFORE you make ignorant posts about technical issues...

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Okay, try running Blood on an i7 with 7 64-bit? Natively now, no vdmsound or dosbox with everything working? Good luck.

I'm not sure what "Blood" is, I assume a game... But I imagine the only problem would be getting graphics and sound drivers... The code would run just fine otherwise, I found a full set of Win3.11 install floppies here at work last year and was able to install it on my Athlon64... I have even run Visicalc on my Athlon64 under a native install of Dos 5.2... The CPU is the most compaible part of the system!

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For me the iPhone is the "new Amiga"... It is a cheap powerful computing platform, with rich multimedia capibility... It also redefined the Market in its own image and perhaps most importantly you can easily write your own apps for it... It fills the Amiga shaped hole that I had in my life for the past 10years.

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Maybe all this arguing about which tiny facet of the Amiga was more Amiga than any other part is a slight waste of time...

Perhaps we should see the world around us and realise that we live in a "post Amiga" world, everything that made the Amiga special is now a stardard par of the computing environment.

What we need to do is take our (as in the Amiga comunity) collective understanding of the interelationship between the features and mould the machines we use in our image... Download the SDKs and get coding, then mate we can restore what was once Amiga... Just a thought...