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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« on: June 03, 2003, 10:54:18 AM »
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For those of you who are not quite up to date with what Hyperion have said, they have stated in the past that they could do a relatively straight port to A1200 BPPC machines. The problem is the wide and vast range of peripherals/add-ons for the A1200 that make writting such a port a major headcahe


hmmm, I'm not sure it that makes sense... Lets run a thought experiement:

1. I have a BlizzPPC in my A1200 with x,y and z peripherals.
2. At the moment the machines runs AOS3.0 on the 68040.
3. Everything runs fine.
4. I install AOS4 (which is supposed to be compatible with AOS 3.1, right?).
5. The drivers for peripherals x,y  and z are still in 68K code, but the hardware has not changed.
6. The PPC runs the PPC code, the 68K emulation runs the 68k code, and everything works fine...

Ok, where's the problem?
1. AOS4 isn't compatible with AOS 3.1? Which defeats the point.
2. AOS4's 68k emulation doesn't allow low level access? Which defeats the point.

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2003, 11:12:19 AM »
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I have to aggree with skipp604 on this one ;). Amigan's stop being so tight! Buy a god damn A1. Throw away that old BPPC. I mean what's the point in porting OS4 to it. It's got a slow bus speed poor memory access and your stuck with AGA, Permedia 2 or PCI equivalent graphics chips.


That's really unfair!!! I spent a lot of money on my BlizzPPC, we are talking about saving for a couple of years... for what? Basicly an FPU that gets very very hot and has little support...

If there were no plans to support the existing PPC user base, why the hell didn't Hyperion just choose a decent CPU, with serious bang for buck...?

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2003, 11:45:07 AM »
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OS4 + new modern PPC hardware. That is the only solution to have a future. The rest is history...


Then I'll ask the question again, why choose such an antiquated system, as the G3  (and G4) if there was no intention to support the existing userbase?

The PPC range of chips are very nice, but they are very expensive for their performance, and require a lot of "custom" technology, that is not only buggy it's also fussy and it takes ages to be developed.

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2003, 12:40:52 PM »
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What you were probably hinting at is x86. Well, i would have loved to see OS4 on x86 but that discussion has been done over and over. It's their decision and i understand the reasons behind it.


Well, not exactly, I have no love of the x86 (maybe the x86-64, but that's another story)... I just don't see why the PPC was chosen if there were no plans to support the existing userbase. The PPC isn't a great choice for the user... why not choose the ARM for example?!!? Cheap, low power consumption, plenty of hardware, I'm sure high performance versions would be avaiable if there was demand...  Or even MIPS?!?!? (or what ever the PS2 uses)

-EDIT- Back on topic, I don't understand why porting AOS4 to the BlizzPPC is so simple, but supporting Hardware that already has drivers and works is so hard?

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2003, 02:15:21 PM »
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Porting OS4 to BPPC will drive up the initial price.. right ?


Well according to the release from Hyperion, "A Blizz PPC Port would be simple".

The question is why, if AOS4 is AOS3.1 compatible and the Real Amgia hardware is avaiable and AOS4 includes 68k emulation, will be there be issues with periphirals?

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2003, 02:28:59 PM »
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I know alot of people would have saved up money etc but look at it this way. If you'd bought a PC back in 1999 would you be expecting to WinXP Pro on it?


Actually it does (not to defend Windoze here)... and this is a totally different point...

-EDIT- I'm not sure it it is there now, but last time I looked the official Amiga.com website clearly stated that AOS4.0 would have full support for "PPC cards for existing Amiga Classic computers"...

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Re: Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2003, 04:01:48 PM »
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SHark ppc version is more important blizzards are onlly 233mhz maximum .


Except mine, that runs at 240MHz...

-EDIT- Back on Topic: Why is is so hard for them to support AOS4 on the BlizzPPC?!?!
I suspect there are thing we are not being told... I really don't like that!!!!