3G iPhone

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motorollin wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Apple sluts! :lol:

You say that like it's a bad thing ;-)

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moto

Unfortunately, it's an expensive kind of slut to be... But Moto is right the atmosphere in the queue was wonderful, the guys around me were a good laugh... Especially the drunk ones... But I do feel both O2 and apple could have handled this much better... Still... I have one of the first few 16gig iPhone 3Gs in the country!

Can't wait to fire OS2.0 up and see what it does...

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Can't wait to fire OS2.0 up and see what it does...

Why was I thinking of Workbench 2.0? :lol:

Well, the iPhone is the 21century Amiga...

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odin wrote:
Good little consumers, you've done your part for the economy again =).

Good we may be, but happy I am... This device is brilliant!

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motorollin wrote:

odin wrote:
Good little consumers

Yes, we have once again been brainwashed by the capitalist pigs ;-)

I did feel like I was living in the Soviet Union... Queuing for a slightly better Phone than the one I already had...  And of which I knew there were so few that I might be queuing in vain... Ok, not quite like queuing for a loaf of bread, but you know what I mean :-)

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I think it's rather Calvinism than communism why we (Odin and I) feel a bit repulsed by buying such expensive gadgets.

The problem is that once you use the gadget... You realize exactly how and why it fits perfectly into one's life... The price isn't that much when you realise that it is the device you dreamed about 10 years ago!

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Can't wait to fire OS2.0 up and see what it does...

Why was I thinking of Workbench 2.0? :lol:

Well, the iPhone is the 21century Amiga...

Making exaggaration an art... :lol:

Well, Like the Amiga in the '80s, the iPhone brings together a lot of different pre-existing technologies into one single platform. It does so at a price and form factor that is convienient and useful for the average user.

It has a focus on multimedia in a market that has been lacking in that area for a long time.

The iPhone is the new Amiga.

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persia wrote:
Can I open a terminal on an iPhone and type commands it it?  I'd love to be able to ssh into my servers at work!

I agree, the iPhone *is* the 21st C Amiga.

Actually you can, I used to run one on my old iPhone... It was brilliant... Sadly there isn't a terminal app for OS 2.0 yet, but I expect one will come soon... Or even just port one yourself :-)

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persia wrote:
Can I open a terminal on an iPhone and type commands it it?  I'd love to be able to ssh into my servers at work!

I agree, the iPhone *is* the 21st C Amiga.

A terminal App has just been released :-D

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quarkx wrote:
Hey, I used the iphone, and I got rid of it within the first week I had it.

:lol: Seriously how dumb do you have to be to not be able to figure out an iPhone?

No, that's a serious question! I honestly don't know..

 I have an older Treo 680, that (other than the OS crashes every once and a while) I would recommend any day over the iPhone- besides the palm OS has hundreds of thousands of free apps,

Just like the iPhone...

 it can do everything and more better than the iPhone and its 2 years older.

I get it now, your first sentence was a LIE... It you had really used an iPhone you'd be embarrassed that you posted this sentence.

The hype has snowballed so out of control, its too funny. If Steve packaged up his feces in a nice shiny metal acrylic case, and called it the iCrap, it would sell.

It probably would, But I wouldn't find much use for it... I think you are just jealous... no one would give you anything for your {bleep}e...

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quarkx wrote:
Hey, I NEVER SAID I couldn't figure it out,I just didn't like it at all. I didn't like they way the texting worked,

Yeah, qwerty can a bit hard to figure out... no wait...

they layout of the unit etc.

Once you figure out that with a touch screen, when you touch the screen where the icon is, that activates the icon, then you start to get a feel for the device.

I much preferred my Treo. the Treo was / is a lot simpler if you are use to the Palm OS.

I know, change is hard!

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quarkx wrote:
Umm, I think you sarcasm is misplaced. The Treo also has touch screen, Icons and a REAL Querty keyboard. The treo has its (long list) of faults also, but Like I said, after a week of using the iphone, I was not impressed enough to keep it. You are misguided to think everyone loves the iphone or will love it once they get their hands on it. But hey! keep up the good blind faith marketing for APPLE. They love you for it.
(now my sarcasm is misplaced :-o )

Oh yeah, that's really sarcastic... :roll:

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the_leander wrote:
I can see where you're comming from with regards the iPhone being the next amiga, but, respectfully I must disagree, I personally would argue that the EeePC would be a better fit - it takes comparatively modest hardware and does a huge amount with it (with Xandros), further, it is cheep and easy to use.

The iPhone operates in the mobile space, the EeePC while ultraportable, is still very much in the desktop mould. They don't overlap markets, so I have no problem with your definition.

I have played with the iPhone and really do like it, no doubt this will also brand me a fanboi, just as would my previously owning a Newton would...  :roll:

I'm absolutely in love with my iPhone. As, I'm sure you've found your EeePC, it totally fits with my lifestyle :-)

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A4000_Mad wrote:

motorollin wrote:


@A4000_Mad
The iPhone 3G's camera is the same as the previous iPhone. It can't capture DVD quality video, but it can play back high quality video. You can't (AFAIK) send files to other people via bluetooth. Fortunately for me, none of those features are important in the slightest.

Thanks moto,

I'll have to get a closer look by heading to the O2 shop and pretending I'm about to buy one :-D

You must just have a play :-)

Unfortunately most of the good functionality is provided by (mostly free) 3rd Party Apps... So the iPhone you see in the shop is this:

Mobile Phone
Email Client
Web browser
Personal Organiser
Video Player (including YouTube)
Mp3 Player
Fashion accessory


That is the core device...

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NoFastMem wrote:
Can't afford one... Maybe if the capacity was much greater, I'd be into it. I could ditch my proper iPod and justify it that way.

But I've nearly filled my 160GB Classic and I've got a perfectly functional phone anyway. Maybe in a few years when SSD is cheaper.

For me a 32gig iPhone would be the sweet spot... but I am making do with 16...

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mdwh2 wrote:
I got a 3G phone years ago, no queuing required

bloodline wrote:
Well, Like the Amiga in the '80s, the iPhone brings together a lot of different pre-existing technologies into one single platform. It does so at a price and form factor that is convienient and useful for the average user.

It has a focus on multimedia in a market that has been lacking in that area for a long time.

The iPhone is the new Amiga.

Not really, it's more like a new Windows 95: Bringing together things that other products have done years before

All the Amiga did was bring together pre-existing technologies, the amiga just had exactly what the market needed in one single package.

 but for some reason getting lots more hype.

Because the Phone/Mobile device market was stagnant... it has been around for about 10 years and companies had become obsessed with adding things like higher resolution cameras... without innovating or even giving the user what the user actually wants!

The Market has traditionally been aimed at boring geeks who love to sprout off numbers and specs... Apple make devices for real people.

The only thing nifty about the Iphone that's not so common in other phones is touchscreen, but even so that's not unique (and I don't think Apple were the first with this feature, either?)

There is nothing innovative about the touchscreen (except perhaps that Apple use a capacitive screen and the others tend to use pressure sensitive screens)... Touchscreen have been around for years, and no one ever found them useful... It is the user interface under the touchscreen that Apple got right. All the other manufacturers thought that the interface under the touchscreen didn't need to be updated from the old mouse driven model... they even required a stylus!!! Apple developed a new interface, that was designed to be driven by the users finger... that is why the iPhone feels so great to use.

 Also no Amiga had a bug as fundamental as not having copy/paste.

As stated by in the Apple Technology conferences... that was a design decision... It was a feature that needed more time to develop and the decision was to leave it out of V2.0 and focus on feature that would be more useful to the general public.

What's odd is that a lot of features hyped about the Iphone aren't even unique to smartphones (e.g., accessing the Internet, or multimedia).

Because you are a computer geek, don't understand the concept of usability. The iPhone integrates these features into a single usable package. the iPhone's internet browser is about a billion years ahead of any other mobile device!!! I don't even bother with turning real computers on any more!!!

Although I might agree that it's a "new Amiga" in the sense of a "post Commodore new Amiga" rather than "groundbreaking like the A1000 was" - lacks Java, overpriced, lags behind in features like 3G...

The A1000 lacked standard features like CP/M compatibility.
The A1000 lagged behind others, I note the Atari's MIDI ports.
The A1000 was massively more expensive than the competition.

Don't look back with rose tinted glasses.